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On Sat, 21 Sep 2019 09:01:54 +0200 |
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Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote: |
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> Hi, everyone. |
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> Since we currently don't explicitly indicate the appeal procedure |
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> for Undertaker actions, I'd like to propose adding the following to our |
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> wiki page. |
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> TL;DR: Potential retirements can be appealed <1 mo before execution (or |
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> post execution), with ComRel being the first appeal instance, |
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> and Council being the second. |
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> Full proposed policy, with rationale: |
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> 1. Both pending and past retirements can be appealed to ComRel. |
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> The ComRel decision can be further appealed to the Council. |
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> R: ComRel is a parent project for Undertakers, so it seems reasonable to |
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> make it the first appeal instance. |
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> 2. Pending retirements can be appealed no earlier than one month before |
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> planned execution date (i.e. no earlier than after receiving third- |
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> mail). |
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> R: This is meant to prevent premature appeals while Undertakers would |
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> not retire the developer anyway (e.g. due to new activity). Undertakers |
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> recheck activity while sending third mail, so that's a good point to |
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> confirm that someone's retirement is still pending. |
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> 3. Throughout the appeal process, the pending retirement is suspended. |
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> If the appeal occurs post retirement, the developer remains retired |
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> throughout the appeal process. The appeal process is finished if |
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> either: |
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> a. the Council issues final decision, |
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> b. the ComRel decision is not appealed further within 7 days, |
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> c. both sides agree not to appeal further. |
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> R: We obviously want to avoid ping-pong of retiring, then unretiring |
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> (then maybe retiring again). |
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> 4. The appeal process is meant to resolve disagreements between |
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> Undertakers and developers. It is not a replacement for communicating |
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> with Undertakers. |
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> R: We don't want people to appeal everything without even trying to |
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> resolve it between us. For example, if we missed something, then you |
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> should tell us rather than calling for appeal. However, if we do |
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> disagree on whether something counts as sufficient activity, this is |
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> something you can appeal. |
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> 5. The appeal process resolves each case individually based on existing |
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> policies. While it may influence future policies, those need to be |
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> carried out via appropriate policy making channels. |
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> R: In other words, appeals don't change policies silently. If a policy |
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> needs to be changed, it must follow proper channel with ml review. |
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> WDYT? |
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Thanks for noticing this gap and addressing it. Given recent events |
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though, we must also review the wording used in regular undertaker |
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correspondence and also the process, if necessary, to avoid things |
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getting to this point in the first place. |
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-- |
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James Le Cuirot (chewi) |
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Gentoo Linux Developer |