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From: William Hubbs <williamh@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] call for agenda items -- council meeting 2017-09-10
Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2017 18:46:26
Message-Id: 20170904184623.GA29065@linux1.home
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] call for agenda items -- council meeting 2017-09-10 by Rich Freeman
1 On Mon, Sep 04, 2017 at 02:19:09PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
2 > On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote:
3 > > W dniu pon, 04.09.2017 o godzinie 12∶48 -0500, użytkownik William Hubbs
4 > > napisał:
5 > >> On Mon, Sep 04, 2017 at 07:36:32PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
6 > >> > W dniu pon, 04.09.2017 o godzinie 19∶22 +0200, użytkownik David Seifert
7 > >> > napisał:
8 > >> > > Hi William,
9 > >> > >
10 > >> > > given the massive inactivity of the sparc and hppa arches, I would like
11 > >> > > to request dropping their profiles to 'dev'. I would like two votes:
12 > >> > >
13 > >> > > 1) Should sparc be dropped to a 'dev' profile?
14 > >> > >
15 > >> > > 2) Should hppa be dropped to a 'dev' profile?
16 > >> > >
17 > >> > > I hope this can clear a lot of the STABLEREQ and KEYWORDREQ backlog
18 > >> > > that is making maintenance in Gentoo cumbersome.
19 > >> > >
20 > >> >
21 > >> > Weren't we discussing moving them to ~arch? I don't like marking
22 > >> > profiles non-stable because it disables CI checks on pull requests, so
23 > >> > whatever people do with those keywords, we no longer verify it.
24 > >>
25 > >> Moving to dev means repoman doesn't scream about things, that's the
26 > >> cleaner way to go imo. Also, that means we don't have to go through the
27 > >> tree and change keywords everywhere.
28 > >>
29 > >
30 > > ...and that is a problem because...?
31 > >
32 >
33 > That is a change that is really hard to revert, while reversing the
34 > stable flag would not be nearly as hard if the arch team wants to step
35 > up. You don't immediately lose all the past stable testing work that
36 > was done on the arch.
37 >
38 > Long-term either approach yields the same result.
39 >
40 > If marking the profile as dev causes some breakage for users, then
41 > those users should seriously consider contributing to the arch team,
42 > because they're probably the only people around who might potentially
43 > do so. If not, they get to keep the pieces.
44
45 I'm with Rich. If the arch team sees the change and decides to step
46 up in a short time, it is easier for them to flip the flag from
47 dev back to sstable in the profile rather than
48 re-add stable keywords to the packages., so I see the profile change as
49 more friendly to the arch team.
50
51 William

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