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From: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@g.o>
To: Piotr Karbowski <slashbeast@g.o>
Cc: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] call for agenda items for 2020-01-12 council meeting
Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2020 15:45:42
In Reply to: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] call for agenda items for 2020-01-12 council meeting by Piotr Karbowski
1 >>>>> On Sun, 05 Jan 2020, Piotr Karbowski wrote:
3 > I'd like to request Council to define rules regarding maintainership
4 > boundaries and provide guidance regarding under what conditions one is
5 > allowed to make changes to packages that are by metadata.xml maintained
6 > by another party.
8 > The current situation is land of undefined rules and double standards
9 > under disguise of 'common sense'. Although it does work for most part,
10 > it's not uncommon to come across people that are overly territorial,
11 > treating Gentoo packages as their own personal property, who openly
12 > prohibit others from joining them as maintainers on packages, with the
13 > solo reasoning that they feel territorial and do not want others
14 > touching it.
16 > This leads to a situations, where some bugs reported on bugzilla are not
17 > fixed in timely fashion, even when there are other developers that are
18 > willing to fix those bugs and deal with whatever aftermath of doing
19 > those changes would bring.
21 > Because those rules are unsanctioned, we have land of middle
22 > inconvenience where one can never be sure if by declaring maintainer
23 > fimeout and fixing a bug would not bring ComRel on him, for touching the
24 > package one does not maintain. By defining rules and guidelines, it
25 > would greatly benefit Gentoo as a whole as well as reduce the
26 > frustration that come from dealing with people who are gate keeping
27 > while being unable to provide a valid reason why they do not want anyone
28 > toucing their property.
30 This has been discussed a number of times in the past. I believe that
31 the best current practice is outlined in the devmanual:
35 Also, "request Council to define rules" normally isn't going to work,
36 because chances are that the Council won't see this as an actionable
37 item. So, if you want the rules to be changed (or better defined),
38 then it will work much better if you come up with a concrete proposal
39 and discuss it on the mailing list.
41 Ulrich


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