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From: Matthew Thode <prometheanfire@g.o>
To: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
Cc: gentoo-project <gentoo-project@l.g.o>, Gentoo Trustees <trustees@g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Meeting agenda - Council meeting 2018-04-08
Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2018 15:29:22
Message-Id: 20180406152914.3kakoprpns7cnkz3@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Meeting agenda - Council meeting 2018-04-08 by Rich Freeman
1 On 18-04-06 07:43:31, Rich Freeman wrote:
2 > On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 10:39 PM, Matthew Thode
3 > <prometheanfire@g.o> wrote:
4 > > On 18-04-05 21:15:08, William Hubbs wrote:
5 > >> On Tue, Apr 03, 2018 at 08:19:52AM -0500, Matthias Maier wrote:
6 > >>
7 > >> *snip*
8 > >>
9 > >> > 8. The council was requested to discuss and vote on the following motion [8]
10 > >> >
11 > >> > "The Gentoo council shall directly contact "Software in the Public Interest
12 > >> > Inc." (SPI), with the intention of Gentoo becoming a SPI Associated Project,
13 > >> > independent of the Gentoo Foundation."
14 > >>
15 > >> As a newly accepted member of the Gentoo foundation, I am making sure
16 > >> the trustees are aware of this agenda item. Is it ok for us to join an
17 > >> alternate organization such as is being proposed?
18 > >>
19 > >
20 > > Nope, though I imagine the council already knows that (the council has
21 > > requested this in the past iirc).
22 > >
23 >
24 > I don't think he was suggesting that the Foundation should become
25 > associated with SPI, but rather the distro. The wording is a bit
26 > sloppy, IMO.
27 >
28 > Maybe something like this might convey what I suspect was the intent:
29 >
30 > The council shall directly contact "Software in the Public Interest
31 > Inc." (SPI), with the intention of the project becoming a SPI
32 > Associated Project,
33 > independent of the Gentoo Foundation.
34 >
35 > I'd suggest a better model might be:
36 >
37 > The council shall directly contact "Software in the Public Interest
38 > Inc." (SPI), with the intention of the project becoming a SPI
39 > Associated Project,
40 > in addition to being supported by the Gentoo Foundation.
41 >
42 > I think we're getting a bit hung up on the word "Gentoo" referring to
43 > both a legal entity and a community/project supported by the entity.
44 > Legally it only means the first. However, I can think of no legal
45 > reason that the group of people associated with Gentoo couldn't also
46 > associate with other legal entities, as long as Gentoo's legal rights
47 > to the copyrights/trademarks are respected. That is just freedom of
48 > association.
49 >
50 > IMO having multiple organizations supporting the distro could be
51 > beneficial. I'd concede that it would be unconventional. Legally the
52 > Gentoo name would only belong to one of them, but the work itself
53 > could be funded and supported via any of them.
54 >
55 > If nothing else this might also be a way to reduce the workload on the
56 > Foundation so that they can focus more on getting the paperwork caught
57 > up vs actually having to pay for infra.
58 >
59
60 Ah, that makes sense, if it is a desired thing to happen it'd probably
61 be a good idea to talk with the Foundation about it as well (we don't
62 want to work against eachother, open communication, etc).
63
64 --
65 Matthew Thode (prometheanfire)

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