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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-project <gentoo-project@l.g.o>
Cc: undertakers <undertakers@g.o>, comrel <comrel@g.o>
Subject: [gentoo-project] [RFC] Undertakers: appeal policy
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2019 07:02:02
Message-Id: 3aab702403d9a7e0bf7246f14a5130acd464ca45.camel@gentoo.org
1 Hi, everyone.
2
3 Since we currently don't explicitly indicate the appeal procedure
4 for Undertaker actions, I'd like to propose adding the following to our
5 wiki page.
6
7 TL;DR: Potential retirements can be appealed <1 mo before execution (or
8 post execution), with ComRel being the first appeal instance,
9 and Council being the second.
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12 Full proposed policy, with rationale:
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14 1. Both pending and past retirements can be appealed to ComRel.
15 The ComRel decision can be further appealed to the Council.
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17 R: ComRel is a parent project for Undertakers, so it seems reasonable to
18 make it the first appeal instance.
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21 2. Pending retirements can be appealed no earlier than one month before
22 planned execution date (i.e. no earlier than after receiving third-
23 mail).
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25 R: This is meant to prevent premature appeals while Undertakers would
26 not retire the developer anyway (e.g. due to new activity). Undertakers
27 recheck activity while sending third mail, so that's a good point to
28 confirm that someone's retirement is still pending.
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31 3. Throughout the appeal process, the pending retirement is suspended.
32 If the appeal occurs post retirement, the developer remains retired
33 throughout the appeal process. The appeal process is finished if
34 either:
35
36 a. the Council issues final decision,
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38 b. the ComRel decision is not appealed further within 7 days,
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40 c. both sides agree not to appeal further.
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42 R: We obviously want to avoid ping-pong of retiring, then unretiring
43 (then maybe retiring again).
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46 4. The appeal process is meant to resolve disagreements between
47 Undertakers and developers. It is not a replacement for communicating
48 with Undertakers.
49
50 R: We don't want people to appeal everything without even trying to
51 resolve it between us. For example, if we missed something, then you
52 should tell us rather than calling for appeal. However, if we do
53 disagree on whether something counts as sufficient activity, this is
54 something you can appeal.
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56
57 5. The appeal process resolves each case individually based on existing
58 policies. While it may influence future policies, those need to be
59 carried out via appropriate policy making channels.
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61 R: In other words, appeals don't change policies silently. If a policy
62 needs to be changed, it must follow proper channel with ml review.
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64
65 WDYT?
66
67 --
68 Best regards,
69 Michał Górny

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[gentoo-project] Re: [RFC] Undertakers: appeal policy James Le Cuirot <chewi@g.o>
Re: [gentoo-project] [RFC] Undertakers: appeal policy Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@g.o>