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From: "Rick \\\"Zero_Chaos\\\" Farina" <zerochaos@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Support for Seperate /usr
Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 00:32:36
Message-Id: 5200442E.7010105@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-project] Support for Seperate /usr by Rich Freeman
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4 On 08/01/2013 05:16 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
5 > Splitting thread so that the agenda thread isn't lost in discussion:
6 >
7 > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 4:04 PM, Alexis Ballier <aballier@g.o> wrote:
8 >> I have no opinion whether separate usr should be supported or not: I
9 >> have not been using this layout since years. However, I strongly prefer
10 >> some kind of consistency: The traditional layout with a minimal / to
11 >> boot or the usr move both have their advantages; if we go for something
12 >> in between we get none of them.
13 >
14 > I tend to loosely agree here.
15 >
16 > My inclination right now is to support this proposal if either of the
17 > following is true:
18 > 1. Somebody explains that right now the absence of a decision is
19 > causing them actual problems (extra work, limitations, whatever).
20 dozens of things have randomly been moved from /usr to / as a result
21 strictly of user complaints. For instance bzip2 was moved to / but
22 lbzip2 is in /usr which means I can't safely do something like "eselect
23 bzip2" and use a properly threaded bzip2 implementation.
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25 - -ZC
26 > 2. This becomes necessary to enable some larger long-term goal, which
27 > has received council approval.
28 >
29 > #2 was basically covered by Alexis already.
30 >
31 > Regarding #1, I informally emailed the base-system maintainers a week
32 > ago about whether there was any need to revisit last year's decision.
33 > I didn't really get a sense that anybody really needed the council to
34 > step in now. I recognize that William is also a base-system
35 > maintainer so if he wants to state that he is subject to some kind of
36 > extra work or such supporting separate /usr without an early boot
37 > workaround I'll certainly be sympathetic.
38 >
39 > I do favor the dropping of support for separate /usr without an early
40 > boot workaround. I just don't think the council should actually step
41 > in until somebody needs us to, or as part of some larger plan. If the
42 > base-system maintainers have things under control, better to let them
43 > handle it.
44 >
45 > Rich
46 >
47 >
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