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From: "Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn" <chithanh@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2011-12-13
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 22:14:24
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2011-12-13 by Zac Medico
1 Zac Medico schrieb:
2 >> 2011/12/4 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn <chithanh@g.o>:
3 >>> I already stated that I would leave the call to zmedico as lead
4 >>> developer of portage. Giving him the arguments and the data to make the
5 >>> decision, but watching whether his reasoning is sound. That means
6 >>> clearly saying where it is based on fact and where it is based on opinion.
7 >>> (I wouldn't mind if he made an entirely opinion based decision, as long
8 >>> as he didn't claim it to be fact-based)
9 >
10 > I think it's difficult or impossible to get an reasonably unbiased
11 > sample of the population of Gentoo users as a whole. Voting is only fair
12 > when you can get a reasonably unbiased sample of the whole population.
14 This is something I can agree with.
16 > Due to human nature, people who are unhappy with the change in defaults
17 > are more likely to express their opinion publicly than people who
18 > welcome the change in defaults. This tends to bias statistics in favor
19 > of the unhappy people.
21 But this is precisely what I meant above and in my older post. You have
22 no idea to which extent this effect is present, much less whether other
23 effects which could introduce bias in the other direction outweigh your
24 "unhappy with the change in defaults" group.
25 You keep on repeating this as if it were fact, but have no data to base
26 this claim on.
28 One way to investigate would be to sample statements in the forum
29 thread, and determining how many responded with personal preference and
30 how many with practical arguments. It would still have to be accounted
31 for those who try to rationalize their pre-conceived opinion with ad-hoc
32 arguments, but better than nothing at all which is the current case.
35 Best regards,
36 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn