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On czw, 2017-05-11 at 03:52 -0400, NP-Hardass wrote: |
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> On 05/11/2017 03:17 AM, Matthias Maier wrote: |
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> > Hello all, |
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> > On Sat, Apr 29, 2017, at 12:00 CDT, "Anthony G. Basile" <blueness@g.o> wrote: |
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> > > Hi everyone, |
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> > > The Gentoo Council will be meeting in two weeks. If anyone has any |
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> > > issues we need to discuss, please let me know and I'll put it on the |
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> > > agenda. Thanks. |
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> > I would like to make a last minute proposal. |
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> > |
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> > Proposal: |
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> > I ask the council to establish a procedure / team to moderate the |
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> > gentoo-project@ and gentoo-dev@ mailing lists: |
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> > - In general the amount of moderation shall as minimal as possible |
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> > (in particular developers and long-time contributors |
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> > unconditionally green-lighted), |
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> > - but for non-developers abusing the mailing lists for their own |
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> > agenda their contributions shall be moderated. |
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> > - Similar to irc operators there shall be a decicated moderator team |
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> > to ensure a quick and timely response. |
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> > - The moderator team shall be different from council members, and |
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> > ideally also comrel, such that these groups can act as a check and |
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> > balance. |
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> > Rationale: |
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> > The gentoo-dev@ and gentoo-project@ mailing lists nowadays serve |
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> > an important role for Gentoo development (e.g. mandatory announcement, |
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> > RFCs, PATCH reviews). This function is currently severly impeded due |
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> > to the high level of noise and unrelated personal agenda [1]. |
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> > Best, |
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> > Matthias |
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> > [1] https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-project/ |
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> I'm going to second the proposal. |
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> As an aside, in considering this, I'd like a priori moderation |
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> (whitelist+manual passthrough) to be weighed against a posteriori |
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> moderation (automatic passthrough+reactionary blacklisting), assuming |
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> that both are feasible with our ML system. |
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The difference between the two is that the former causes 'every non-dev |
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is moderated, I guess that's fair' and the latter causes 'how dare you |
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restrict my freedom of speech, you bastards, I'm the most important |
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Gentoo developer since Daniel Robbins, you silly lives mean nothing |
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compared to me, you wouldn't have been born if it was not for me...!' |
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Best regards, |
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Michał Górny |