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On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 7:10 AM, M. J. Everitt <m.j.everitt@×××.org> wrote: |
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> I'd like to propose that the gentoo-project mailing list also becomes |
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> white-list only to post, as there are a lot of "off-topic" posts being |
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> submitted. I believe that the Council would have no problem with this, |
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> as their objectives clearly include snubbing out any form of |
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> non-technical discussion. |
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And it begins... |
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In this case there is an insane and inane call to moderate, in the |
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name of making a point that doesn't exist. |
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Ulm makes a good response so I don't need to elaborate. |
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However, it is indicative of the sort of resentment that applying |
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broad brush(-off) strokes with a technical solution to the essential |
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social problems of keeping flame wars out of a technical discussion |
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group. So what that a blacklist can be fooled by a change of |
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identifier, the real means of controlling a difficult user is to weild |
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a ban hammer lightly, and making sure that other users simply ignore |
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the trolls. The ban hammer may need to be used repeatedly agains some |
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users, but after they cannot get the irritated reactions they crave. |
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(Perhaps by just hiding their attempts and any out-of-band responses, |
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leaving messages only in the archive, but not distrubed to the list -- |
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oh yeah, that's not a possibilty unless the first post from a new |
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address gets looked at before sending it out. Hmmm, sounds like a form |
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of robo-moderation that could be set up so that any user who cares can |
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act as a reviewer for the robot.) |
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Yes, this is also a technical solution, but one that supports |
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implicitly open communications, rather than erecting a specific |
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qualification to be allowed entry to discussions (i.e. the requirement |
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to get someone already on the list to sponsor the new person.) |
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I am in the process of trying to get a hold of the old s.r.u-u robot |
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and polishing it. I just don't know where to talk about it. |
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G.Wolfe Woodbury |
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redwolfe@×××××.com |