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From: Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Council appointed leaders for QA and DevRel
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 16:28:23
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Council appointed leaders for QA and DevRel by Rich Freeman
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On 14/08/2011 12:35 μμ, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 7:06 AM, Markos Chandras > <hwoarang@g.o> wrote: >> Some time ago, few people proposed to have Council appointed >> leaders for QA and DevRel. I like the idea because this way the >> Council can ensure that the team is active or either force some >> activity in case the current leader slacks big time. >
Well, to be honest, I have no clear understanding of what you guys think about this problem. From what I gathered, it seems to me that we need to establish a process to identify dead/slacking projects and then have the appropriate mechanism within the council to deal with it. Having all the project sending a "ping" e-mail to council is not a solution. Having a bunch of people monitoring all the projects is not good either. What I propose, is to compile a list with projects that are known to be dead, and give them a final warning or verify their "dead" status. After that, their broken package shall be removed, and the rest of them can remain as maintainer-needed@. 2-3 developers can take care of the removals. It is not a big deal. Personally, I want to shrink portage. There is no way for 250 listed developers ( I would be glad if 100 of us were really active ) to maintain thousands of ebuilds. I have already said that many many times and I will say it again. We need to stop pretending that everything is fine. We need to support only the packages that we can *really* support and lets hope that more people will join in when they see their packages going away. I think this is quite honest not just to our selves but to our users as well. If we keep stalling, then heavy committers will probably get demotivated ( by trying to keep everything working ) and Gentoo will slowly die or portage will become unmanageable. - -- Regards, Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJOS+u1AAoJEPqDWhW0r/LCYCcP+gMKEHUR8M/4irz7N/1U0cy3 vt4xVNXticFha1uWmbF+GtjFnWoGYGQIFJnDsb81C9om6NGyEKwqGvDG/N2ELEHl QgHEN1bDOs+i7+0iyk7I5WP4MNVgGTSFcsChHXCA50aOlUYW7mFvplJLNTxSw5zA xi20Cr0bUj/4b4vbHfnhGY8htxpeQ1SKRGSnpm5Dwr1eid8HN8QtrPjhk/gWNxV5 neT2SGkxljcB9L55RO0gteKdolS8aLevomJegHLAPIy3BlfaYq0mY532K1qnX4Jc WRAbQIFXrOhnNmlRwzSzPFlf86NqHn84Jq2tqBDCL61jTsoaBHnS7RJFJQTSvNcn sm8DRn3wK6W2HP6sDhSyeJOSRvADvBtwlK/B0uyHbkluSr+4BRr2yBr4a7ubbhbw dOJJrmfJW154n1qUXqRvbpXPFMFfqaHmQE4gd6nL9zCIq0xTICgp0ps4lm62Kl5T 2hIyZAK7TLrcdNUcyzqhPhW7wR82+w06m4WJMH3Ip1HTVV30ojir7mP+ur0Hao3c rcHc1IVQcqBzm59mesOJ4A1iAlTqMNEKkLWxsbRKnPD8B1pOY1GIwKk+Fj/5YF7s m3FdeQRSY2SgVwVkVypGTgOSzmL7jC1IaHfH6fGD0RghBNWkrIn96/E2o4qcFwtn DVbVyq1RnOGf6RolgHij =kXGN -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----