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From: "Rick \\\"Zero_Chaos\\\" Farina" <zerochaos@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Code of conduct
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 17:05:10
Message-Id: 524B0146.5090305@gentoo.org
In Reply to: [gentoo-project] Re: Code of conduct (was: Council meeting: Tuesday 2013-10-08, 19:00 UTC) by Ulrich Mueller
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4 On 10/01/2013 06:45 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
5 >>>>>> On Tue, 1 Oct 2013, Andreas K Huettel wrote:
6 >
7 >> 2. Resume discussion on the new Code of Conduct [2-5]
8 >
9 > I'd like to resume the discussion already now, before the meeting.
10 >
11 > 1. I think that section "Limited list of bad behaviour examples" could
12 > be improved. In its current form, it is mostly redundant with the
13 > second paragraph of "Be respectful".
14 >
15 > Furthermore, it goes too far if the scope of that section applies to
16 > Gentoo mirrors, i.e. package content:
17 >
18 > <ulm> scarabeus: section "examples of inappropriate behavior", could
19 > you clarify what is considered as "public accessible areas"?
20 > would gentoo mirrors count as such?
21 > <scarabeus> oh yes, those do count
22 > [quoted from log of 20130611 council meeting]
23 >
24 > This would imply mirror restriction for some of our packages
25 > (mostly fortune cookies and some artwork, but also packages like
26 > app-admin/sudo). However, with USE=offensive we already have a
27 > mechanism in place that covers such cases, so I believe that no
28 > further action is needed there.
29 >
30 Mirror restricting something like sudo because of the optional and
31 properly named offensive use flag is rediculous. Either this kind of
32 thing is okay and it stays, or we won't allow it and the flag should be
33 removed. Please, sanity first, mirror restricting something with
34 offensive language just hurts user experience for the (in this case
35 core) package.
36
37 Thanks,
38 Zero
39
40 > I therefore suggest that we replace the whole section by the
41 > "Unacceptable behaviour" section from our current CoC:
42 > http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/Code_of_conduct#Unacceptable_behaviour
43 >
44 > 2. The last section uses the term "enforcer". According to
45 > Merriam-Webster dictionary:
46 >
47 > Definition of ENFORCER
48 > 1 : one that enforces
49 > 2 a : a violent criminal employed by a crime syndicate;
50 > especially : hit man 1
51 > b : player (as in ice hockey) known for rough play and fighting
52 >
53 > It looks like the word has negative connotations and should be
54 > avoided. (The current CoC uses "proctor" instead.) But maybe native
55 > speakers could comment on this?
56 >
57 > 3. The text should use consistent spelling. Currently, both British
58 > ("behaviour") and American ("honored") spelling variants occur.
59 >
60 > Ulrich
61 >
62 >> [2] http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.project/3061
63 >> [3] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.project/2470
64 >> [4] http://dev.gentooexperimental.org/~scarabeus/gentoo-coc.txt
65 >> [5] http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20130611.txt
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Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Code of conduct "Anthony G. Basile" <basile@××××××××××××××.edu>
Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Code of conduct Ulrich Mueller <ulm@g.o>