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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Trying to become a Gentoo Developer again spanning 8 years...
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2016 15:34:12
Message-Id: CAGfcS_kMnF-Z7y7uOybVodMubnsAWKV28=WJMWHKBxH351ezOQ@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Trying to become a Gentoo Developer again spanning 8 years... by Nick Vinson
1 On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Nick Vinson <nvinson234@×××××.com> wrote:
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3 >
4 > Certainly, you could do that. However, I would ask for objective
5 > measures for U(), f(), g(), and h() which wouldn't be an easy task.
6 >
7
8 I think this thread went largely off the deep end a number of posts
9 ago, but there really isn't anything objective about the Code of
10 Conduct. Ultimately what kind of behavior we want Gentoo to be
11 associated with is a judgement call.
12
13 If we tolerate more behavior, we'll attract people that we wouldn't
14 otherwise attract, and we'll lose people that we wouldn't otherwise
15 lose. The same is true if we don't tolerate certain behavior.
16
17 Maybe if we went closed source and started charging for Gentoo we
18 could invest more in developers and that would result in a lot more
19 Gentoo productivity, and a better product for our paying customers.
20 Even if we could all agree that was true, I don't think it is
21 compatible with our mission. Certainly I would find someplace else to
22 spend my time if that was the route Gentoo followed.
23
24 Ultimately I think all of this comes down to, what kind of Code of
25 Conduct do we want to have, and are we serious about enforcing it?
26 This thread seems to be mostly about questions around whether we need
27 a Code of Conduct (at least, that is how it started, and it has hit
28 numerous topics after the original poster disappeared). I started
29 another thread to try to talk about ways to improve how we enforce the
30 Code of Conduct, and intend to start others.
31
32 I don't think many people would argue that there isn't room for
33 improvement. However, I think it is unrealistic to expect that the
34 final solution will be 100% objective, or that it won't ultimately end
35 up with trusting somebody to make the right call.
36
37 --
38 Rich

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Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Trying to become a Gentoo Developer again spanning 8 years... Raymond Jennings <shentino@×××××.com>