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On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 20:29:46 -0400 |
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Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote: |
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> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 8:22 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. |
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> <wlt-ml@××××××.com> wrote: |
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> > I think you should be more concerned with the fact there has not |
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> > been a single new developer yet in 2017. Rather than trying to |
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> > further restrict and limit a community that is NOT attracting new |
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> > blood or growing really. Which was one of the fastest growing |
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> > communities. |
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> Heh. If I read threads like this every other month on the -dev |
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> mailing list I wouldn't want to be a dev either. |
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Which brings me to wonder, what are you doing as a developer. Not in an |
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insulting way. However it is one thing to say I am a Gentoo developer |
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it is another thing to actually do development. |
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Git shows really low stats. You cannot argue with facts. It is not |
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meant to shine light on one vs another. But what gives anyone the right |
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to prevent another from doing tremendous work that would benefit |
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others. That is not being a good steward.... That is being selfish. |
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$ git shortlog -sn |
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199 Andreas K. Huettel (dilfridge) |
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41 Richard Freeman |
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40 William L. Thomson Jr |
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I did more in my first year in 2006, not to mention later years. |
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https://github.com/wltjr?tab=overview&from=2006-12-01&to=2006-12-31 |
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I do more than 40 commits in a day quite often. Just to my overlay. My |
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entire overlay has been created in the last year. It would not exist if |
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I was a developer and stuff be in tree. That does extend BEYOND java. |
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Just Java is the largest area effected. But I am daily adding more |
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stuff to my overlay in other areas that are not current or have issues. |
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> IMO until we block the ability for people to go on endlessly about how |
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> Gentoo is dying on our lists I doubt anything will change. Reading |
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> nonsense like this hardly inspires me to go work on ebuilds. Neither |
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> does being pestered by 3 other devs about replying to trolls. |
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Maybe get out of the way and let people do the work you and others are |
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not. You all are the ones in the way. Someday you will realize this, or |
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not but it is to your own and Gentoo's peril. I have moved on in many |
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regards. |
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I do not bother with anything Gentoo Java. In about a years time. I |
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will be decoupled from tree entirely. With current stuff, and it all |
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maintained.... Zero day maintained, and looking into further ways to |
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automate. |
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> The simplest solution is probably to just moderate any posts by |
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> non-devs, and use comrel to deal with abuse by devs. Problem solved. |
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Or people get out of the way. You know the saying.... |
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Do something! Lead follow, or.... GET OUT OF THE WAY!!!! |
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There is another option. You can do all this work yourself. Which goes |
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beyond just ebuilds. I have made tools. I have done documentation. I |
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have fixed other QA tools. I have ported old bad code to faster longer |
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term more reliable code,etc. |
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Its easy to see why I am not fit for Gentoo. In a vocal minorities |
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mind. Those with the power.... But not the will to do the work... |
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William L. Thomson Jr. |
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