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From: "Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn" <chithanh@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Trying to become a Gentoo Developer again spanning 8 years...
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2016 12:35:59
Message-Id: 57FE2E21.3050906@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Trying to become a Gentoo Developer again spanning 8 years... by NP-Hardass
1 NP-Hardass wrote:
2 > On 10/11/2016 06:22 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
3 >> Again in a court, if policies and procedures are not followed, a person cannot
4 >> be prosecuted, nor can that ruling withstand.
5 > Then go to council and appeal. In a court, if policies and procedures
6 > aren't followed, it is on the defendant to bring suit against the
7 > plaintiff to assert that their rights were violated. Go file your
8 > appeal already...
9
10 NeddySeagoon and Nick Vinson already pointed this out, but let me repeat
11 this again: ComRel does not operate like a court. Someone who is subject
12 to ComRel punishment does not get to see the evidence or learn who is
13 the accuser.
14
15 Even if that person later appeals to Council, there is an imbalance.
16 There is a "prosecution" (ComRel) and neutral "judges" (Council) but not
17 any kind of defense.
18
19 There may be good reasons for all of that, but let's not pretend that
20 this is like a court in any way.
21
22 > Once you've done that, come back and talk policy on
23 > how to reform ComRel. Either that or give up on trying to get back in
24 > for now and just focus on trying to reform ComRel.
25
26 I think it is not necessary to have been subject of action and exhausted
27 all possibilities of remedy before one can criticize the rules under
28 which ComRel operates, actions of ComRel or their members, or what
29 happens in case ComRel does not follow the rules.
30
31
32 Best regards,
33 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn

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Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Trying to become a Gentoo Developer again spanning 8 years... "M. J. Everitt" <m.j.everitt@×××.org>