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On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 10:37:00 AM EDT Christopher Díaz Riveros wrote: |
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> El mar, 26-06-2018 a las 09:11 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: |
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> > Hello, everyone. |
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> > Since the nominees for the new Council aren't eager to publish |
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> > manifestos, and nobody seems to be asking questions (yet some people are |
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> > leaving hostile half-comments), I'd like to start a thread dedicated to |
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> > asking the nominees (who accepted) questions related to their views of |
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> > the upcoming term. At the same time, I'd like to ask all nominees to |
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> > answer all the questions provided by community members. |
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> > I have started a more detailed page about nominees [1], and I will be |
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> > adding answers to the questions there. Please note that I will try to |
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> > summarize them to shortly fit into the table. If someone doesn't like |
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> > my summary, please let me know what to put there. That said, if someone |
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> > thinks there's another kind of useful metadata to add to the table, I'd |
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> > appreciate that as well. |
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> > To improve readability of the thread, I'll ask my question in reply to |
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> > myself ;-). |
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> > Also, please keep the nominees in CC, in case they don't subscribe to |
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> > gentoo-project. |
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> > [1]:https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/User:MGorny/Council_elections_2018 |
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> Sounds like a good idea, here are my questions: |
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> What do council-nominees think about the current lack of manpower in Gentoo |
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> as a whole, and how do you propose to confront this situation, with facts? |
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I cannot speak historically (>3 years) of what may or may not have been a lack |
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of manpower, but in recent years I would agree that there is a lack of |
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manpower. |
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I do believe there are efforts to address this coming from our own developers. |
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One such example is Michał's (mgorny) efforts with Github as the conduit. His |
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automation, CI bot, and personal involvement has shown fruit in the form of |
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new developers (sbraz as an example). Such avenues like this can be exploited |
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to bridge the gap of "getting involved" within Gentoo. The ease of |
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contribution, abiity to review, and ultimately incorporate the changes offered |
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by users is conducive to public satisfaction and positive PR. |
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Furthermore, I have had the opportunity to see some of the flyers and other |
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"swag" given out at such events as FOSDEM. This is a traditional approach, |
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but highly effective. It also lends to estabilishing the personal aspect of |
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meeting other's who share a similair interest. My intent is to begin this |
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same effort in the United States (mostly my area) as I do not believe it is as |
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prevalent as Europe. I do not have anything empirical to validate this so it |
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is pure perception. |
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> In the same line that previous question, what global decisions do you |
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> consider necessary in order to solve the manpower issue? |
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I discussed it prior to this question, but I think that ultimately the current |
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efforts scaled properly would address these concerns. |
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> Finally, and this is just a personal opinion, right now I see many devs |
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> trying to pull Gentoo to different sides, but what I can't see is a set of |
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> common beliefs that join us all in the same vision of what Gentoo should be |
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> or do in the near future... how could you address this issue? |
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I understand how you would perceive that the distribution is being pulled in |
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many different directions, but I would offer that many of our developers are |
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passionate in their commitment to the distribution. This leads to their |
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passion sometimes lending to heated discussions and very opinionated |
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conversation. I view it as a sign of health. It is not simply a hobby for |
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them to develop within Gentoo, but their contributions become an investment. |
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For those contributing from their place of work (we have many "paid" |
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developers within Gentoo) Gentoo should be a solid investment. As such, I |
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believe it would be noble of us as a council and distribution to set forth |
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clear goals ensuring the health of the distribution. |
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Some things that come to mind: |
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Ensuring the recruitment of new developers is a priority. This would include |
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reviewing not only our PR efforts, but also ensuring a modern and effective |
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approach is made to screen them. Some have expressed that the developer quiz |
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is an antiquated process. While I believe this has merit, I do not believe it |
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can be entirely exempted. I do believe we could rely on "letting the code do |
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the talking" more. Especially with platforms allowing individuals to |
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contribute and have reviews done. This also does not absolve simple reviews |
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such as the purpose of mailing lists etc. Good developers are not only |
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technically savvy, but also socially pleasant. |
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> And if you don't consider this an issue, because of being a community-driven |
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> project etc, how else do you explain the lack of public information about |
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> what Gentoo has done to improve the issues it had 8~10 years ago? If you |
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> search Gentoo in google, besides our official pages, there are a bunch of |
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> articles addressing Gentoo issues that seem to be old but are not "solved" |
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> properly anywhere. Right now I have to go to work, but I'll try to add some |
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> references later today or when requested. |
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> Best regards, |
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Yes, please reply with some references. I have an idea of the type of |
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articles you are probably reading. If those are similair, I would offer that |
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many can be biased or simply not important factors. Gentoo has had it's ups |
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an down over the years just as any distro has. I have been a user for nearly |
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15 years and experienced this from afar in most cases. Bootstrapping from |
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stage 1's and all sorts of fun. |
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-Aaron |