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On Sun, 11 May 2014 20:34:46 +0300 |
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Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@g.o> wrote: |
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> On 11/05/14 19:51, Jeroen Roovers wrote: |
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> >> 14) "TomWij is improving qa, didn't you notice? ;)". |
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> >> Do people really expect QA to be communicative, be motivated and |
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> >> work? |
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> > Of course we do, but are you sure you're tackling this problem the |
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> > right way? I haven't looked into this, but from your quotations and |
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> > from random comments on IRC I get the sure feeling you are perhaps |
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> > pushing people too hard, or at the least rubbing them the wrong way. |
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> > There is no hierarchy that puts QA above developers - you work with |
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> > volunteers and they are all trying their best to get things fixed, |
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> > even when this isn't immediately obvious to you or when the best |
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> > solution doesn't immediately present itself. And when you decide to |
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> > force issues through policies, you find that you don't actually |
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> > have the resources to do that, unless you are prepared to drive out |
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> > the volunteers you expected to start "fixing" things. Are matters |
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> > of "policy" the carrot or the stick? |
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> exactly what i'm thinking too. thanks, well put! ;) |
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It means that you haven't looked; you can't held such expectations if |
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you talk to the QA team with a fictional prejudgment, it might be well |
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put but that doesn't make it reflect the truth. It are thoughts; that |
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is, until you want to share it with QA what it is that you think about |
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as to make it into our collective knowledge. What is it that you notice? |
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With kind regards, |
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Tom Wijsman (TomWij) |
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Gentoo Developer |
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E-mail address : TomWij@g.o |
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GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D |
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