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From: Roy Bamford <neddyseagoon@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: comrel changes
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 21:04:41
Message-Id: PF2TDTVI.QKTD6YDJ.ME35OEF3@YVLG7TNB.GUN54PEQ.E3MLKGXU
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: comrel changes by "Michał Górny"
1 On 2020.02.24 08:55, Michał Górny wrote:
2 > On Mon, 2020-02-24 at 11:47 +0300, Mikle Kolyada wrote:
3 > > On 24.02.2020 11:39, Michał Górny wrote:
4 > > > On Mon, 2020-02-24 at 11:36 +0300, Mikle Kolyada wrote:
5 > > > > As a result we have more busywork, this all can be conveyed to
6 > Council
7 > > > > directly. Also this is unclear to me how a review body will
8 > decide what
9 > > > > to appeal and what hot to, as the data is still being kept
10 > private and
11 > > > > reviewers are going to only have a decision on hands. Having
12 > only
13 > > > > decision is not enough to start thinking ComRel did anything
14 > wrong
15 > > > > (well, unless there were direct rules violation, which, to my
16 > knowledge
17 > > > > has never been the case).
18 > > > The whole point is that the review body has direct access to all
19 > > > the data (i.e. bugzilla privs, comrel@ alias, IRC channels).
20 > Unlike
21 > > > your 'individual' it is considered trusted and therefore you don't
22 > have
23 > > > to 'prepare' data for it.
24 > > >
25 > > Then as a result you are going to have yet another semi-closed
26 > process
27 > > which does not make the entire procedure more transparent (which was
28 > the
29 > > main concern of this thread).
30 > >
31 >
32 > Obviously. When you can't publish all the data, an 'independent'
33 > audit
34 > is the best you can get.
35 >
36 >
37 > --
38 > Best regards,
39 > Michał Górny
40 >
41 >
42
43 Team,
44
45 We are trying to define a solution before the problem(s) we want to solve
46 has/have been framed.
47
48 What problems, (if any), need to be addressed?
49
50 Once problems and potential solutions have been agreed then metrics
51 can be designed to measure the efficacy (or oherwise) of the solutions.
52
53 So what are the perceived problem(s) ?
54
55 Potential solutions and metrics are out of scope meanwhile.
56 --
57 Regards,
58
59 Roy Bamford
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Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: comrel changes Matt Turner <mattst88@g.o>