Re: [gentoo-project] call for agenda items -- council meeting 2021-05-09

[Sam James]

> On 3 May 2021, at 20:19, Thomas Deutschmann <whissi@g.o> wrote:
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> On 2021-05-03 20:12, Sam James wrote:
>> I think we’re worrying about a non-problem (some hypothetical
>> legal dispute(!?)). The council
>> Is free to discuss what it likes. Someone has raised the issue,
>> so why not?
>> Reminder that none of us are lawyers and the council’s job
>> is to debate things. Let’s not be shy about it doing that.
>
> No, this is wrong.
>

Which part is actually wrong…? I’m saying that we don’t need to worry about strange non-legal issues
in order for the council to discuss or debate a topic.

> During a council meeting, only council members should speak. Everyone else has to wait for the open floor at the end.
>
> Therefore, to allow others to participate, any discussion should happen before meeting on public mailing list to allow *everyone* to participate.
> Having an exclusive discussion between 7 people is really not the idea of the council. That said, creating a motion during meeting when nobody else had the chance to comment on before because nobody knew the motion before, is strongly discouraged.

Right, of course.

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> That's why I am proposing to move this to open floor...
>
> I also want to remind us of the fact that we agreed during constitution to have focused meetings [1] and I believe an open agenda item like this discussion where we can do nothing goes against focused meetings.
>

I’m not sure where we’re disagreeing here?

(Also, I always interpreted “open floor” as “council members may discuss anything, not worrying about the agenda” - not anyone can speak, but that may have been wrong.)

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> [1] https://projects.gentoo.org/council/meeting-logs/20200719.txt
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> Regards,
> Thomas Deutschmann / Gentoo Linux Developer
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