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From: Gregory Woodbury <redwolfe@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Trying to become a Gentoo Developer again spanning 8 years...
Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2016 21:44:52
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In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: Trying to become a Gentoo Developer again spanning 8 years... by "Andreas K. Huettel"
1 On Sat, Oct 1, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Andreas K. Huettel <dilfridge@g.o>
2 wrote:
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7 > Am Samstag, 1. Oktober 2016, 10:20:22 schrieb Daniel Campbell:
8 > >
9 > > That's a good point. Personalities, situations, and even the given goals
10 > > of a group can change over the course of time. There's a certain point
11 > > imo where it does no good to hold grudges and it's healthier to start
12 > over.
13 > >
14 >
15 > The misconception here is that last year's events have been influenced by
16 > "old
17 > grudges".
18 >
19 > Hey, nobody cares about 2007 anymore. (Except William.)
20 >
21 > His recent output is quite sufficient to come to a decision.
22 >
23
24 Actually, I think this statement makes it clear that "old grudges" ARE
25 influencing the
26 current situation. It may be William that is bring them up, but everyone
27 is still reacting as
28 if they are still relevant. It is clear that William feels injured by the
29 old incidents, and
30 feels that they have impeded his attempts to return. It is also clear that
31 he bears as much
32 responsibility as anyone for their still being relevant.
33
34 Perhaps someone should take a moment to step back and say "Yes, there were
35 some problems
36 and we are sorry they happened; and maybe you should apologize for being a
37 bit of a PITA,
38 and just let it all drop into the bit bucket."
39
40 There is a lot of fine whine being served, and all of it should be wiped
41 off the table.
42
43 William: Just do the necessary things; ask for a new "mentor", go through
44 the quizes,
45 and don't respond to non-germane comments. submit patches and ebuild
46 corrections
47 via bugzilla, and don't respond to non-technical comments.
48
49 ComRel/DevRel/whomever: Do your jobs and fairly evaluate the technical
50 talents
51 necessary to evaluate and grant the appropriate resources. Do not indulge
52 in
53 gratuitous non-technical commentary; only determine if conversations about
54 technical
55 issues remain involved in technical commentary. All actions should be voted
56 on
57 and recorded.
58
59 All this should take place in open bugzilla entries, except the quizes (and
60 their logs
61 should be saved somewhere in neutral territory. And perhaps a Council
62 member of two should be
63 pinged to keep an eye on the process.
64
65
66 - --
67 > Andreas K. Huettel
68 > Gentoo Linux developer
69 > dilfridge@g.o
70 > http://www.akhuettel.de/
71 >
72
73 --
74 --
75 G.Wolfe Woodbury
76 redwolfe@×××××.com

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