Gentoo Archives: gentoo-project

From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-project <gentoo-project@l.g.o>
Cc: bman@g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Council meeting Sunday 10/June/2018 18:00 UTC
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 17:19:48
Message-Id: CAGfcS_kH1pgG7zz8zPTpr=c+x37xBYi5uH6YWCkGiwpvrYAF6A@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Council meeting Sunday 10/June/2018 18:00 UTC by "Andreas K. Huettel"
1 On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 12:34 PM Andreas K. Huettel
2 <dilfridge@g.o> wrote:
3 >
4 > I'm more worried that at the moment we're all checks and balances (or more
5 > precisely, unclear areas of responsibility and unclear procedures), so that in
6 > the end nothing gets done.
7 >
8
9 ++
10
11 This whole situation is in part the result of having two
12 decision-making bodies with different constituencies, and perhaps even
13 slightly different missions. Adding yet another decision-making body
14 (literally a single body in this case) with yet another constituency
15 and also somewhat independent is going to make the problem worse, not
16 better.
17
18 Checks and balances makes sense for governments, because a government
19 can literally raid your house, seize your property, or lock you in
20 prison. They also have endless funding available to pay as many
21 levels of bureaucracy you might want to employ, and an entire army of
22 people and businesses looking to profit from the checks and balances
23 which help "make it work."
24
25 You almost never see this kind of arrangement in any kind of private
26 organization, whether for-profit or non-profit. You just have one
27 ultimate decision-making body, and anything else serves at their
28 convenience. It works because of competition - if your
29 employer/vendor/whatever does something you don't like, you can just
30 freely choose to leave and work for another. IMO this is part of why
31 Gentoo is struggling here - other distros are less niche and can
32 afford to fork when they disagree over issues.
33
34 IMO one of the bigger challenges will be working with the umbrella
35 group to make it clear who gets to appoint the liaison and so on.
36 They probably could make suggestions in this area.
37
38 --
39 Rich

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Re: [gentoo-project] Council meeting Sunday 10/June/2018 18:00 UTC "Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@g.o>