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From: Michael Everitt <m.j.everitt@×××.org>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo Foundation
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2019 10:04:31
Message-Id: c6e8d191-d423-a10c-f6b2-07585bdc0a6e@iee.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Questions for Gentoo Council nominees: Gentoo Foundation by Michael Everitt
1 On 01/07/19 11:02, Michael Everitt wrote:
2 > On 01/07/19 10:52, Michał Górny wrote:
3 >> On Mon, 2019-07-01 at 10:31 +0100, Roy Bamford wrote:
4 >>> On 2019.07.01 08:50, Michał Górny wrote:
5 >>>> On Sun, 2019-06-30 at 17:55 -0400, Aaron Bauman wrote:
6 >>>>> On Sun, Jun 30, 2019 at 05:54:35PM -0400, Aaron Bauman wrote:
7 >>>>>> On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 01:49:58AM +0200, Andreas K. Huettel
8 >>>> wrote:
9 >>>>>>>> Isn't it about time we quit pinning the mistakes of the past
10 >>>> on the
11 >>>>>>>> officers of the present?
12 >>>>>>> Well, yes. Though, we tried something in the past, it didnt
13 >>>> work, we should do
14 >>>>>>> it different in the future.
15 >>>>>>>
16 >>>>>>>> From what I understand, the present and recent
17 >>>>>>>> officers have made extraordinary efforts to rectify the
18 >>>> shortcomings of
19 >>>>>>>> previous trustees
20 >>>>>>> And that's great.
21 >>>>>>>
22 >>>>>>> But are you sure that we should require continuous
23 >>>> "extraordinary efforts"
24 >>>>>>> from trustees in the future, just to keep things running?
25 >>>>>>>
26 >>>>>>> FWIW, I endorse antarus / Alec for trustee. :)
27 >>>>> No, once fixed, the books will likely be continued to be done by a
28 >>>> full time CPA.
29 >>>>
30 >>>> Wouldn't a dedicated 'full time CPA' be more expensive than an
31 >>>> umbrella
32 >>>> that has a financial team for multiple projects?
33 >>>>
34 >>>> --
35 >>>> Best regards,
36 >>>> Michał Górny
37 >>>>
38 >>>>
39 >>> Ah, the nuances of the English language used between two non
40 >>> native spears.
41 >>>
42 >>> A 'full time CPA' means that the person does that sort of work full
43 >>> time. It does not mean that he or she works full time for any one
44 >>> client.
45 >>>
46 >> Yes, I understand that. However, I still believe that a contract
47 >> initiated between CPA and a single small-ish entity such a Gentoo
48 >> involves more costs than fees taken by umbrella dedicated to multiple
49 >> entities. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
50 >>
51 >> While I can agree that we need to pay more at the moment due to past
52 >> issues, I also believe that we owe it to our donors that we try not to
53 >> spend most of their money on unnecessary bureaucracy (read: keeping
54 >> a dedicated Foundation if there's an alternative that works for Gentoo).
55 >>
56 > Has anyone got any ball-park figures for the costs of being part of an
57 > umbrella organisation?
58 > And how would this compare to the forecasted costs ongoing for Gentoo
59 > Foundation Inc. or a future non-profit?
60 > What would the tax implications of an umbrella org look like, vs Gentoo
61 > keeping these in-house?
62 >
63 Finally, would the Council (prospective) prefer to pay an additional cost
64 to an Umbrella org to be free of Gentoo Foundation or other sub-project?

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