Re: [gentoo-project] Council: Policy for Systemd units

[Ben de Groot]

On 13 June 2013 11:12, Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Ben de Groot <yngwin@g.o> wrote:
>> On 12 June 2013 22:52, Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote:
>>> What all of this really amounts to is a bunch of people who don't want
>>> to work together trying to legally apply the rules to accomplish their
>>> personal goals, whatever they may be.
>>
>> "Do what I say, or I will take over your package and do it anyway" is
>> a really funny way of working together...
>>
>> In most places I know this would be called bullying. I don't want to
>> spend my free time on a project that condones that kind of behaviour.
>
> What part of this is bullying?

The part where someone takes over the package and forces a change that
is objected to by the current maintainer, and you expect him to just
let this happen.

> Adding a unit file isn't going to cause you harm,

In my opinion such a feature request should be sent upstream. It's not
like systemd is obscure.

> and if
> you feel otherwise you can always ask the Council for a ruling.

I'm pretty sure they will vote in favour of those who seem to have the
strongest voice.

> Maintainers MAINTAIN packages, they don't own them.  They're expected
> to cooperate with other projects, and if they're going to point at the
> rules to justify blocking work others are doing they shouldn't be
> surprised if others find rules to point at as well.

Cooperation doesn't include hostile take-over.

And as I said, in my opinion feature requests belong upstream.

If what you're proposing is going to be standard practice in Gentoo,
then I will be looking for a friendlier environment to spend my time
on.
--
Cheers,

Ben | yngwin
Gentoo developer