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On 7/7/21 11:59 am, Rich Freeman wrote: |
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> I'd like the council to vote on one of the following, or some other |
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> approach, preferably to get IRC/email/usernames to match once more: |
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> * On 2021-08-01 the LDAP user database will be queried to compare |
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> their IRC nickname to uid/email addresses. If these do not match, |
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> then the developer will lose their IRC cloak and all IRC roles on |
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> Gentoo channels, and will not be eligible to obtain these again until |
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> the IRC nickname matches. |
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This would mean some developers would need to change their Gentoo |
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uid/address because their nick is not available on Libera. I'm also |
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assuming this only applies to Libera as our official IRC location, since |
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a users nick may be different across networks. |
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> * On 2021-08-01 the LDAP user database will be queried to compare |
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> their IRC nickname to uid/email addresses. If these do not match, |
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> then a process will be initiated to change their Gentoo uid/email to |
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> match their newly chosen IRC nickname. |
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How would this work for people with multiple nicks? I occasionally |
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change my nick to something different for events, like 'darth_wraeth' |
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for May the 4th/5th. I know others have alternate nicks they use |
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longer-term. Would there be a time limit someone can use an alternate |
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nick for? |
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> * On 2021-08-01 the LDAP user database will be queried to compare |
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> their IRC nickname to uid/email addresses. If these do not match, |
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> then the retirement process for that developer will commence. Users |
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> who are unable to obtain a matching nick should contact <foo> to have |
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> this addressed with Libera/Infra prior to this date. |
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Would this be an ongoing thing? This also ties into my previous point - |
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if I temporarily switch nicks, would I be in violation? What if my |
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connection drops/reconnects and I end up as 'wraeth_' and don't notice, |
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would I be in violation and risk retirement (an extreme example, but |
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hopefully you get my point)? |
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Each of the above three options also mean available Gentoo uids is |
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dependent on whether a given nick is available on Libera. |
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> * The Council recognizes that during the transition to Libera a number |
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> of individuals decided to change their IRC nicks and this is causing |
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> confusion. The council kindly asks all developers to voluntarily |
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> re-align their nicks and Gentoo uids so that it is not necessary to |
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> endure further requests asking us to address this problem. |
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What if developers kindly say 'no'? |
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> * The Council recognizes that during the transition to Libera a number |
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> of individuals decided to change their IRC nicks and this is causing |
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> confusion as to what Gentoo policy is on this matter. There is no |
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> requirement that Gentoo uids and IRC nicks match, and any dev is free |
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> to change their IRC nick and register the new one in LDAP. The public |
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> Gentoo developer list will be updated to list the IRC username of each |
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> developer to help everybody identify who is who, and everybody is |
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> encouraged to keep the list handy as it will likely change frequently. |
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This would be my understanding of the status quo, though it isn't |
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codified (that I'm aware of off-hand) nor enforced - that when someone |
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changes their nominal handle, they should update LDAP to reflect it. |
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It's also the most flexible, since it allows Gentoo uid and IRC nick to |
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be different. I think it's also the most reasonable since IRC isn't the |
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only platform Gentoo has an official presence on (eg Github). Still, it |
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only accounts for a single nick, when people may have multiple, for |
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varying lengths of time. |
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Perhaps, rather than forcing either nicks or uids to change, this last |
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option should be properly codified and enforced? Should there also be |
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some guideline on how long someone can use a nick before it's considered |
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"their nick"? Alternatively, can LDAP support multiple nick entries? |
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I think at least the issues of multiple/temporary nicks could be |
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mitigated if you replace 'nick' with 'account' - their Libera account |
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name must match their Gentoo uid in order to be eligible for a cloak. |
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That way the cloak matches their Gentoo uid (since the format is |
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gentoo/developer/$account) making them easier to identify, and you can |
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look up a nick in nickserv to see which account owns it (though you |
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can't look up an account and see what nicks it owns, nor if they are |
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currently online). If going with one of the options that requires IRC |
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presence to match uid, it still means that available Gentoo uids is |
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dependent on what accounts haven't been claimed on Libera. |
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More generally, how would this apply to people who don't use IRC and |
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thus would never have their IRC nick in LDAP match their uid? |
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