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On Wed, 2019-04-10 at 16:36 +0900, Alice Ferrazzi wrote: |
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> > Perhaps the person you talked to don't 'take no for an answer'. |
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> > If the policy works for the majority of people, and there are only few |
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> > who disagree with it (no matter how much they try to exaggerate it), |
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> > and most of those few so far have failed to provide a really good |
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> > argument why they can't do it, then I'm sorry but that's just how things |
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> > work. |
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> If you have any better data, that is not just a presumption please show us. |
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> saying that the majority of people is contributing in Gentoo, is no |
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> meaning. On how many people you are talking about ? you are taking in |
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> consideration all the Gentoo users? |
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I'm talking about the cases I know of, i.e. cases that were explicitly |
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raised, including developers and proxy-maint. If I'm counting |
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correctly, there were less than 10 of them. I'm not going to make |
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a shame list here. If people want to express their opinion, they are |
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free to do so. However, so far it seems that the most people expressing |
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opinions are 'advocates' who have a lot of nameless claims. |
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> For me having people quitting Gentoo devs or Gentoo contribution for a |
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> change in GLEP is a big deal, we are already not that many. |
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What really matters are users. One person 'quitting Gentoo devs' is |
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a small price to pay for a better chance that our users will not be |
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suddenly hit by a destructive copyright pursuit. |
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> I'm certainly against changing the policy on arguments like 'but I want |
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> > to brand myself as X' or 'but you can't prove people are using fake |
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> > identities'. If you really want to push for the latter, I wouldn't mind |
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> > making some form of identity verification obligatory for everyone. |
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> > However, I doubt that's the result you want. |
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> Happy to ear your personal opinion but not everyone thinks in the same |
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> way as you. |
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> I think the opinion of other people is a valuable opinion whathever they |
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> say. |
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This doesn't add anything. Just because other people have other |
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opinions, it doesn't mean their opinions are to be considered higher |
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than mine. Or anyone else. |
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> What I think we want, is more people contributing in Gentoo. |
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No. What we want, is improvement for the users. Improvement is made by |
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more good activity. Which may or may not involve 'more people |
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contributing'. |
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I know it's not cool to value person's contributions but I'm going to be |
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blunt: one person doing a lot of good work is worth more than three |
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contributors who do very little work and a lot of noise about using |
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their pseudonyms. |
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And yes, that's my opinion which -- as you have implied -- is not |
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as valuable as the opinions of those few. |
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Best regards, |
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Michał Górny |