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From: Ulrich Mueller <ulm@g.o>
To: Alec Warner <antarus@g.o>
Cc: gentoo-project <gentoo-project@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: copyright attribution clarifications
Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2018 23:12:01
Message-Id: w6ga7lydqa8.fsf@kph.uni-mainz.de
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: copyright attribution clarifications by Alec Warner
1 >>>>> On Sat, 24 Nov 2018, Alec Warner wrote:
2
3 > I don't believe the technical arguments have much basis; instead the
4 > argument is about community and humanpower.
5
6 > - There is an argument (non technical) that files in the ebuild
7 > repository should carry a copyright notice to signal that the content
8 > has a copyright.
9 > - A GLEP was written (glep76) to standardize what this should be. One
10 > of the (unstated) goals of the GLEP is to avoid spending time managing
11 > the copyright declarations; so it was decided to have 2 forms, the
12 > short form ("Gentoo Authors") and the traditional form (for when we
13 > import code and cannot remove notices.)
14
15 Exactly.
16
17 > The crux of the argument is about the maintenance of these copyright
18 > notices; not about the bytes they occupy or the CPU time spend reading
19 > them.
20
21 > - When is it allowed to add extra notices?
22 > - When is it allowed to remove extra notices?
23
24 > This is ultimately the problem I think we see with the SEI
25 > attribution. We don't understand *why* Sony wants the notice there and
26 > because of that we don't understand the answers to the above.
27
28 We don't understand it because they refuse to give us an explanation.
29 Which is not our fault.
30
31 > What I want to avoid happening is getting sued by Sony because the
32 > notices were added and then later removed; but we have not received
33 > guidance on this and I think it blocks us moving forward.
34
35 I don't see anything in the GPL-2 that would prevent us from removing
36 redundant copyright notices.
37
38 For example, the FDL-1.3 requires in section 4.D. to "Preserve all the
39 copyright notices of the Document", and the CC-BY-SA licenses contain
40 similar wording. However, such a clause can neither be found in the
41 GPL-2 nor in the GPL-3. In fact, the GPL-3 clarifies in section 7 that
42 it can be *supplemented* with terms "requiring preservation of specified
43 reasonable legal notices or author attributions", but the license itself
44 doesn't require this.
45
46 Disclaimer: IANAL, TINLA.
47
48 Ulrich

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