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On 01/17/2015 04:56 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: |
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> On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 4:43 AM, Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@g.o> wrote: |
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>> Wanted to share my thoughts on where I think Gentoo should go, in terms |
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>> of direction. Would love to hear your thoughts. |
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>> |
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>> http://dberkholz.com/2015/01/13/gentoo-needs-focus-to-stay-relevant/ |
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> Interesting post, and I liked bits of the discussion in this thread. |
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> As a software developer, I really like how easy Gentoo makes it for me |
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> to pull in bits I need for any kind of project I might come up with. |
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> On the other hand, I think we suffer from the competition of |
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> language-specific packaging solutions (e.g. NPM, pip/virtualenv, |
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> RVM/gems). Maybe containerization/Docker will swing this back, though |
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> I don't quite like the direction Docker takes. I'm really looking for |
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> something even more lightweight that would fit in better with Gentoo, |
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> e.g. some solution where I can have a container in which I can use |
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> portage to install stuff, but depend on the @system, from the host |
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> system. Integration between our package management and |
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> containerization feels like it could be very powerful. |
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I've had some passing thoughts about this too. I think this may be a |
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special case of what the prefix team calls prefix-chaining [1]. |
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> Mostly, I worry about our contribution process debt (this term was |
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> recently coined by a guy from the Mozilla community, read |
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> http://gregoryszorc.com/blog/2015/01/09/firefox-contribution-process-debt/ |
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> and subsequent posts for background). Given our heavy-weight |
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> recruiting process, and CVS, and the lack of manpower in e.g. infra, |
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> it definitely feels like we have issues here. I think that could |
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> potentially be very important to keep Gentoo alive (and keep a fresh |
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> inflow of new developers going). |
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Yeah, anything we can to to reduce the barrier to contributions would be |
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great. Maybe using a github pull-request workflow may help with some |
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aspects of this. |
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[1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.alt/4821 |
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Thanks, |
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Zac |
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