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On 2019.01.29 17:28, Brian Evans wrote: |
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> On 1/29/2019 11:54 AM, Thomas Deutschmann wrote: |
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> > On 2019-01-28 23:27, Matt Turner wrote: |
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> >> It's very common to need firmware to use wired or wireless |
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> networking. |
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> >> I would not want to ship installation media without requisite |
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> >> firmware. |
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> > I don't think that sys-kernel/linux-firmware would be affected. |
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> > But if it would be affected, where's the problem? Just create |
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> > /etc/portage/package.license for that media. |
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> > Again, the main motion is for users starting with a fresh stage3 |
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> image. |
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> > Gentoo is about choices. So the only thing which will actually |
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> change is |
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> > an additional prompt because we are raising awareness... |
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> This is a barrier for new users. As seen in #gentoo, new users are |
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> often quite confused over the prompt to add static-libs to |
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> sys-apps/util-linux when installing genkernel. They think it is an |
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> error and rush for support to solve it. |
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> Now the chance that more user issues will occur with licenses will |
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> only |
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> increase. |
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> sys-kernel/gentoo-sources, or any sources for that matter, would have |
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> to |
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> be exempted on each and every install (larger barrier and confusion). |
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> 75-90% of all users will need to be add sys-firmware/linux-firmware to |
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> package.license so what's the point? Yes, specific configurations can |
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> exist without it, but those are becoming increasingly rare. |
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> I say instead of changing the default, have more clear documentation |
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> on |
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> how to have users change things to what they want if they choose this |
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> "free as in freedom" mantra. I'd rather have less barriers and more |
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> users. |
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> Brian |
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After being nagged about ACCEPT_LICENSE a few times, most users |
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will set ACCEPT_LICENSE="*" just for an easy life. They already have |
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a lot to learn and this is the easy answer to this new learning opportunity. |
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The few users that actually care about politically correct free software |
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can be educated in the handbook as to what to set in ACCEPT_LICENSE |
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Leave the default ACCEPT_LICENSE= as is but update the handbook to |
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explain have to set ACCEPT_LICENSE together with a health warning |
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about potential problems. |
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That keeps the majority of users happy. |
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-- |
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Regards, |
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Roy Bamford |
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(Neddyseagoon) a member of |
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elections |
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gentoo-ops |
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