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On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 23:19:48 +0000 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: |
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> On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 02:13:36 +0300 |
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> Andrew Savchenko <bircoph@g.o> wrote: |
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> > > What's the difference between connecting to a proprietary Git server |
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> > > over an open network stack, and connecting to an open Git server |
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> > > over a proprietary network stack? |
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> > 1a. If proprietary git server denies user, nothing can be done. |
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> > Access to a free software project is restricted. |
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> If an ISP decides to start blocking traffic, access is restricted. This |
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> happens regularly. |
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But ISP may be changed or some tunnelling may be used. |
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> > 1b. If proprietary network stack makes it impossible to use free |
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> > git server, it is possible to change ISP in most of cases. |
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> It's utterly trivial to move a Git repository. It's not easy to change |
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> ISP. |
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When this is your private repository — yes, when you need to |
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collaborate with hundreds of other developers — no. |
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> > 2a. Github has almost no obligations to free software users: |
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> > service access is free, but may be restricted any moment without any |
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> > legal penalties. |
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> So what? If it is, it doesn't affect anything, because Git doesn't rely |
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> upon everything being in one specific place. |
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Github is more than git server. (And I'm sure Gentoo infra can setup |
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git server on their own resources.) Github is a development |
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platform with pull requests, review tools, issue tracker and other |
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workflow management tools. That can't be easily and arbitrary moved. |
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I'm not sure if all that auxiliary information may be moved outside |
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of Github at all. |
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> > 2b. ISP services are usually paid for, so users have a possibility |
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> > to affect ISP actions in majority of cases. |
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> Tell that to anyone whose government decides to block Github... |
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You know, I usually don't talk to myself. And this is one more |
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reason why I'm not happy to see github as a main development |
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platform to be used. In short it hosts too many projects and if one |
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them makes government unhappy, whole github will be blocked due to |
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https nature of connection. I wrote this in more detail in my other |
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mail to this discussion. |
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Best regards, |
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Andrew Savchenko |
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