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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: "M. J. Everitt" <m.j.everitt@×××.org>
Cc: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Representation of Gentoo on third-party platforms
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2016 08:18:19
Message-Id: 20161113091754.742cfabf.mgorny@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Representation of Gentoo on third-party platforms by "M. J. Everitt"
1 On Sun, 13 Nov 2016 01:53:15 +0000
2 "M. J. Everitt" <m.j.everitt@×××.org> wrote:
3
4 > On 13/11/16 01:48, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
5 > > On 11/13/2016 02:45 AM, M. J. Everitt wrote:
6 > >> On 13/11/16 01:44, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote:
7 > >>> On 11/13/2016 02:40 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
8 > >>>> On Saturday, November 12, 2016 8:24:12 PM EST Rich Freeman wrote:
9 > >>>>> In either case the person affected can appeal to Council which makes
10 > >>>>> the final decision.
11 > >>>> If a problem went from Team Lead, or Leads, to a vote from the entire council.
12 > >>>> An appeal should not be necessary. There should not be an appeal process or
13 > >>>> need. Such things should not occur and everyone should be doing everything
14 > >>>> possible to prevent it. Thus again nothing to appeal.
15 > >>>>
16 > >>> This is already the case where technical issues are discussed in a
17 > >>> professional manner not involving personal conflicts.
18 > >>>
19 > >>>
20 > >> With respect, Kristian, I really don't believe we have a problem with
21 > >> technical matters ... ;]
22 > >>
23 > > The description above is a normative description of how things works in
24 > > the general case, which doesn't involve comrel. The latter is only
25 > > involved when the usual dispute resolution is not applicable due to
26 > > personnel making technical issues personal.
27 > >
28 > Ok so for the sake of clarity, we have a purely technical issue, which
29 > is either right or wrong .. and then someone takes it as a personal
30 > affront, instead of being mature and professional, and accepting the
31 > correction, learning the lesson, to put into practise in future. So
32 > instead of the issue being purely technical .. said person MAKES it
33 > personal .. and therefore themselves causes a conflict .. which requires
34 > some form of Discipline .. which breeds hate .. and ...
35 >
36 > .. you see where I'm going .. ?!
37
38 I don't see what your problem is.
39
40 QA handles the technical issue, and stays the correct body for
41 the technical part of the issue. If someone adds a behavior issue for
42 it, Comrel handles the latter. There are two separate issues, that have
43 some common evidence.
44
45 Of course, it sometimes did happen that one of the bodies already
46 issued the ban, making any work on the other end unnecessary. I don't
47 see a problem with that either.
48
49 Do we have any common members between Comrel and QA? That could be
50 a conflict but could be easily solved via excluding the common member
51 from the latter team for this particular issue. If you really think
52 it's a problem.
53
54 --
55 Best regards,
56 Michał Górny
57 <http://dev.gentoo.org/~mgorny/>

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