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From: Raymond Jennings <shentino@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 14:19:25
Message-Id: CAGDaZ_ocw-L2YG_Wy8Y7KjicNF6SCYwJstvX_=dc6r0asQCR+w@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: Shutting down the Off the Wall (was: Re: [gentoo-project] Call for agenda items ...) by "Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn"
1 On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 3:11 AM Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn <
2 chithanh@g.o> wrote:
3
4 > David Seifert schrieb:
5 > > On Sun, 2020-12-13 at 15:36 +0100, Thomas Deutschmann wrote:
6 > >> Finally please also allow me to ask why 30+ days after all of this
7 > >> started, nobody from forums team took yet any action, i.e. the post I
8 > >> showed on Friday is still untouched. Have I missed an issued
9 > >> warning/ban?
10 >
11 > > I think the forum mods agree with you:
12 > > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-8543599.html#8543599
13 > >
14 > >> Of the random set I surveyed, I did not find any posts that, in my
15 > >> opinion, rose to the level of a violation.
16 >
17 > "I will note that due to the volume of poorly explained reports, I gave up
18 > before reading nearly all the reported posts, so some of the reported
19 > posts
20 > may well deserve to be reported."
21 >
22 > Ok, so overloading the forum moderation with frivolous requests will
23 > obviously lead to the legitimate requests getting inadequate attention.
24 >
25
26 I would like to point out an analogy that also applies IRL.
27
28 Another forum I used to frequent banned people from using the report
29 function if they abused it, and people who breached various kinds of
30 subordinate bans from threads, topics, forums, etc were punished for ban
31 evasion with a formal ban from the entire forum, in some cases permanently.
32
33 Similarly, IRL it's usually a crime to file a false police report or to
34 make false statements to officials, and various bar associations and courts
35 can also brand attorneys as vexatious litigants.
36
37 So in general, it's not like frivolous requests go unpunished in other
38 contexts, and I think the same can apply to frivolous requests to forum
39 moderators. I'd also opine the same could apply in other contexts such as
40 to proctors, chanops, comrel, but that's for another context and scope.
41
42 Aside, I'd also like to observe that this topic has apparently proved quite
43 contentious and I'd opine that that itself is grounds to consider the
44 action at hand is not yet ripe for a decision by the council.
45
46
47 > I consider those who started digging in historical posts and mass
48 > reporting
49 > them as acting in bad faith here.
50 >
51 > Best regards,
52 > Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
53 >
54 >

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