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From: Raymond Jennings <shentino@×××××.com>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Hiding problems, breach of Gentoo Social Contract
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2016 06:13:45
Message-Id: CAGDaZ_p5_yKRu7JjjvJiVsn5xgs1wPYv3SnqM1gOM06zNBtcHA@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: [gentoo-project] Hiding problems, breach of Gentoo Social Contract by "William L. Thomson Jr."
1 I feel like I should ask a pertinent question (the same sort that just
2 earned me a seat among the foundation's members).
3
4 Whose privacy, exactly, is at stake if comrel were to breach
5 confidentiality on this issue? I'd rather ask for a full list.
6
7 And as someone else mentioned regarding "noise", is there another mailing
8 list better suited for these sorts of discussions?
9
10 On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 9:59 PM, William L. Thomson Jr. <wlt-ml@××××××.com>
11 wrote:
12
13 > I have read this a few times now. I cannot see it being taken any other way
14 > than written. Nothing states the problems shall remain hidden indefinitely.
15 >
16 > Specifically mentioning BOTH security and developer relations. Meaning
17 > neither
18 > receives special treatment over the other. Neither should be private,
19 > unless
20 > requested to not publicize before a deadline. Implying by default it is
21 > public
22 > including developer relations information. Developer bugs remain visible,
23 > as
24 > are bugs filed to comrel.
25 >
26 > The fact that it mentions developer relations information implies that
27 > those
28 > problems should be open and not hidden. That developer relations is also
29 > handled via Bugzilla at least in part. That further links developer
30 > relations
31 > problems to the social contract and not hiding problems there.
32 >
33 > If requests to publicize problems are denied. That seems like a clear
34 > breach
35 > of the Social Contract. I would expect the Foundation to fulfill its
36 > obligation
37 > to protect the community and enforce total adherence to the Gentoo Social
38 > Contract.
39 >
40 > "We will not hide problems
41 > We will keep our bug report database open for public view at all times;
42 > reports that users file online will immediately become visible to others.
43 >
44 > Exceptions are made when we receive security-related or developer relations
45 > information with the request not to publicize before a certain deadline."
46 >
47 > https://www.gentoo.org/get-started/philosophy/social-contract.html
48 >
49 > --
50 > William L. Thomson Jr.
51 >

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