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From: Aaron Bauman <bman@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: council members and appeals
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 13:59:31
Message-Id: 09B1028E-BE58-4061-8B01-EDC5C1D40DC4@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: council members and appeals by Rich Freeman
On February 13, 2018 5:23:52 AM EST, Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote:
>On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 12:51 AM, Alec Warner <antarus@g.o> >wrote: >> >> In some fields (law, or finance for example) there are rules against >having >> even potential conflicts. Should Gentoo emulate those rules and >produce an >> organization that avoids even the appearance of conflict? > >Absolutely! > >> A council member is on a team (not even necessarily QA / Comrel). >That >> team's lead makes a decision. The council member doesn't agree with >the >> decision and appeals to council. >> I would argue the member raising the issue has a conflict and they >should >> not vote (recuse / abstain). > >Merely disagreeing with a decision is not a conflict of interest on its >own. > >A conflict exists when somebody stands to personally benefit from a >decision. What personal benefit does a member of a team get from >appealing a disagreement? > >Now, if the decision concerned them personally in some way I could see >a conflict, such as if it were about a reimbursement of an expense >they incurred, or if it were about sponsoring them to go on a trip. > >I wouldn't even consider it a conflict of interest if it were a QA >decision on a commit they made, unless this commit furthered some kind >of work they were doing outside of Gentoo (the commit benefited their >employer or their consulting business). >
You are focusing on purely financial or tangible gains and attempting to pander law based interpretations of a conflict of interest which are inaccurate. Please, go read and stop spreading false information.
>Conflict of interest isn't the same as disagreement. It is completely >normal and healthy for people to disagree with things. This does not >in any way make them prejudiced or likely to make a decision that is >bad for the distro. > >Again, I'm completely in favor of avoiding conflicts of interest. It >just seems that there is a popular notion around here of what a >conflict of interest is which certainly wouldn't stand up in a court >of law, or really in any organization. Perhaps this is why so many >seem to be paranoid that there is some kind of cabal running the show. >(One which is elected, so presumably this cabal is upwards of 30+ >people.)
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Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: council members and appeals Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>