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From: Matt Turner <mattst88@g.o>
To: gentoo-dev@l.g.o
Cc: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev] Call for agenda items -- Council meeting 2011-11-08
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:11:05
Message-Id: CAEdQ38ExNaAL8UVZWKBKQXknyk8DXAUhz1KM5Q2W9ZW0pyJumA@mail.gmail.com
1 On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 2:05 PM, Pacho Ramos <pacho@g.o> wrote:
2 > El mié, 26-10-2011 a las 19:15 +0200, Fabian Groffen escribió:
3 >> On 26-10-2011 19:11:24 +0200, Michał Górny wrote:
4 >> > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 19:06:07 +0200
5 >> > Fabian Groffen <grobian@g.o> wrote:
6 >> >
7 >> > > > 3) one step towards preventing useless ChangeLog entries.
8 >> > >
9 >> > > Also this has been discussed and decided upon by the current and
10 >> > > previous Councils, so also that opinion is unlikely to suddenly
11 >> > > change.
12 >> >
13 >> > I meant the useless ChangeLog messages done by developers on purpose
14 >> > like 'ignore this'.
15 >>
16 >> Oh, you can just edit them, and "fix" the ChangeLog.
17 >>
18 >> I hope people will keep on looking for those, and contact the developer
19 >> in question to ask him/her to change his/her behaviour.
20 >>
21 >>
22 >
23 > Why don't we try to reach a consensus? Maybe we should be allowed to
24 > simply run echangelog (or whatever is used) to generate a message like:
25 >  26 Oct 2011; Pacho Ramos <pacho@g.o> -pangomm-2.26.3.ebuild
26 >
27 > And simply that
28 >
29 > Pros:
30 > - People refusing to add a message saying "Drop old" (or similar) could
31 > be happy with this, as no redundant information is required to be
32 > written in ChangeLog.
33 > - Users will still see that a package was removed, as it's indicated
34 > with "-" previous removed file.
35 >
36 > What do you think?
37 >
38 > From my point of view, if we don't try to reach a consensus, we will
39 > expend time on things to enforce a policy that we could probably expend
40 > on other tasks and, then, maybe all of us should try to stop being so
41 > strict and try to give in a bit (not sure if it's the way in English to
42 > say "ceder" :S)
43
44 I think that makes a lot of sense.
45
46 Matt