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On 2018-02-18 15:59, Benda Xu wrote: |
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> Hi Daniel, |
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> Daniel Robbins <drobbins@××××××.org> writes: |
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> > I have been reflecting on the recently much-broadcasted conflict |
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> > between mgorny and zlg, and considering that maybe at the root of it |
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> > all, we have a process issue rather than a personal one. |
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> > Consider this -- Gentoo has very little buffer between what is |
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> > committed to the Portage tree and what ends up on a user's |
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> > system. Because of this, if you are a senior dev on Gentoo, you can |
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> > feel some sense of responsibility for breakages that may occur for |
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> > users. There generate a significant amount of frustration and stress |
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> > as you try to plug the QA holes that you see appearing before you. |
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> > This amount of fragility could make one quite anxious, irritable and |
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> > even bitter towards more junior developers who make mistakes. It could |
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> > lead to, rather than addressing this underlying problem, potentially |
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> > being overly harsh with those who make mistakes. |
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> I agree with your analsys. My taking of this problem has 3 directions, |
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> they may complement each other: |
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> 1. enforce peer-review of commits, such as Gerrit before commits landing |
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> git repository. |
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I’m not terribly fond of this idea. I see it getting in the way of time |
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critical changes. If we were a professional organization, I’d be in |
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favor of this. But, as we’re volunteers, I see the general problem of |
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“forcing” people to get things done. |
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> 2. enforce CI before real commits. If someone care about some features |
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> of a critical ebuild, write tests to prevent others from breaking it! |
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> repoman has already done part of the job. |
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We kind of have this already through Github, but I’d like for this to be |
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something I can run on my system without broadcasting it to the world. |
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> 3. let us meet more frequently offline, so that we get more acquainted |
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> and become more forgivable and relaxed to each other. |
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I would definitely love to do this. Unfortunately, the two nearest devs |
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to me are 6 hours away. |
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