Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-12-09

[Michał Górny]

On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 19:16 -0500, Aaron Bauman wrote:
> > On 25.11.2018 15:31, Mart Raudsepp wrote:
> > > In two weeks from now, there will be a council meeting again. Now is
> > > the time to raise and prepare agenda items that you want us to discuss
> > > and/or vote upon.
> > >
> > > Please respond to this message on the gentoo-project mailing list with
> > > agenda items.
> > > The final agenda will be sent out on 2018-12-02, so please make sure
> > > you post any agenda items before that, or we may not be able to
> > > accommodate it into the next meeting.
> > >
> > > The meeting itself will happen on 2018-12-09 19:00 UTC [1] in the
> > > #gentoo-council FreeNode IRC channel.
> > >
> > >
> > > 1. https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20181209T19
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mart Raudsepp
>
> I would like to propose, once again, that the council vote on the
> following items:
>
> 1. The council approves all architectures that are maintained as stable
> architectures.
>  - e.g. alpha, amd64, arm, arm64, ia64, ppc, ppc64, and x86.
>
> Conversely, the council also may remove/drop such architectures as
> needed (c.f. item 2).

What happens if Council votes 'no' to this item?  Do all arches become
unstable?

Don't introduce votes for confirming status quo because they make no
sense.  If there's a specific change you're proposing, propose it
and be specific so that people can discuss it ahead of time.

> 2. The council approves that all stable architectures are subsequently
> determined to be security supported. Thus, an architecture may not be
> stable and *not* security supported.  This disparity has implications in
> processes and timeliness of actions taken to mitigate vulnerabilities
> reported.
>  - e.g. amd64 is approved as stable arch and thus is security supported.
>  - e.g. arm is dropped as a stable arch thus is no longer security supported.
>
> Overall, both of these items will provide a much clearer understanding
> of how security is able to proceed with mitigating vulnerabilities in
> the tree, how users view and understand what architectures are stable
> and security supported, and allow the security team and maintainers a
> clearer/cleaner process to follow.
>

Are you asking the Council to make a policy for security team,
or to override the existing policy of security team?  Because this
sounds like you're implying that security team can't make up their mind.

Also, if the Council votes 'yes', what happens next?  Does security
accept all stable arches?  Do stable arches get demoted implicitly based
on security project considerations?

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny