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On Wednesday, June 27, 2018 4:25:07 AM EDT Michał Górny wrote: |
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> (CC-ing the remaining people to remind them to be subscribed to -project |
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> W dniu wto, 26.06.2018 o godzinie 09∶11 +0200, użytkownik Michał Górny |
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> > To improve readability of the thread, I'll ask my question in reply to |
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> > myself ;-). |
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> Three more questions from me: |
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> 1. Do you believe that Council members should respect the requests of |
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> the developer community even if they disagree with them? Or should |
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> Council members decide based on their own judgment of arguments |
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> presented? |
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Absolutely, they should represent the developer community even if they |
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disagree with them. This is of course a very politically charged question |
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though and I am glad you asked it. If any elected member fails to represent |
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their constituents (the larger developer community) then they have either |
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failed to understand their requests, perpetrated a lie during the election |
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with falsehoods, or a numerous amount of other scenarios. |
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I am not running for the council in order to elevate my own agenda or advocate |
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that somehow I am superior in my own thinking, judgement, or other |
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characteristics than another developer. What I am running for is to |
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*represent* the ideas, wishes, and concerns that the larger developer |
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community has. This is of critical importance to me. While probably not |
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liked due to the corporation affiliation, Steve Jobs once said: |
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“it doesn’t make sense to hire smart people and tell them what to do; we hire |
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smart people so they can tell us what to do.” [1] |
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I am not proposing that this is a company or by any means that we hire |
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individuals. What I am proposing is that the council is representing a |
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collective group of developers who are very smart and technically savvy at |
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what they do. It would be *ignorant* of me to believe that somehow i can make |
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a proper decision without seeking the advice of the very talented individuals |
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we have within Gentoo. |
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With those ideals in mind, it would be incomplete of me to say that |
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disagreements will not happen. Surely, I have and will continue to have |
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disagreements with other developers on a certain way in which to address |
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something. However, if a majority of developers are saying something |
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collectively and I am completely disregarding it then I need a self-checkup. |
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This also brings to light that civil discourse is important. As I have |
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mentioend before, we (developers) tend to be a very opinionated and charged |
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group of individuals. Civil discourse allows us to achieve a better outcome |
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and leverage the ingenuity of those around us. |
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> Example: there's a heated debate, and the majority of respondents |
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> request that X is implemented. However, after reading all the arguments |
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> you don't think that X is a good idea but you haven't managed to |
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> convince others. Would you vote for X (as your electorate demands) |
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> or against it (as you believe is better for the distro)? |
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> 2. Do you believe that the Council should proactively research the state |
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> of affairs and make decisions whenever they believe the direction |
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> of the distribution needs to be adjusted? Or should it be passive |
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> and avoid involvement unless developers explicitly request Council's |
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> intervention? |
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I do believe there is value in the council being proactive, but smartly |
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addressing these issues should they impact developers. This is most effective |
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especially at quelling any potential risks or interference for developers. |
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One of the goals and responsibilities of the council should be to remain |
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proactive and ensure developers can do their work unobstructed. |
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We often elect individuals to positions so they may take care of such tasks |
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and "let us be" to do what we find most important. Again, I cannot stress |
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enough that competent council members should know when to ensure the larger |
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community is kept abreast of impacting changes. This does *not* give the |
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council a free ticket to do what they want. |
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> 3. Do you believe the developer community should hold the power |
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> to veto or dissolve the Council at any point? Provided there's a global |
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> developer vote agreeing on that. |
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Absolutely. I have mentioned this on IRC before. As I have previously |
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mentioned in this email, the council *represents* the developer community. If |
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the council is failing to to meet what their constituents are most concerned |
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with then there should be a path to removal. |
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Of course, just like the previously mentioned disagreements, it should be done |
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smartly and no room for malice or ill intent. As you mentioned, a majority |
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vote or something similair would be a consideration. |
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-Aaron |
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[1]: http://fortune.com/2015/06/09/shahrzad-rafati-keeping-your-best-employees/ |