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From: Aaron Bauman <bman@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Trying to become a Gentoo Developer again spanning 8 years...
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 03:00:35
Message-Id: bb12cfa3-38a5-4c14-986a-4b9a700ea9bc@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Trying to become a Gentoo Developer again spanning 8 years... by "William L. Thomson Jr."
1 On Thursday, October 13, 2016 6:30:20 AM JST, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
2 > I forgot a few things with my original post. There is a public
3 > bug open from
4 > 2008 on the action. There was no bug open in 2015 when I was silenced on
5 > #comrel IRC channel, after being accused of spamming the
6 > channel. Nor any bug
7 > about my denial of return beyond the comment on the bug. Some
8 > things were done
9 > a bit better in 2008 than 2015, but neither should have ever occurred.
10 >
11 > Reading this will shed allot of light on the past
12 > devrel bug to moderate me on -nfp
13 > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=236479
14 >
15 > There is a personal back story here, as I had stayed a single
16 > night with Chris
17 > Gianelloni and Chrissy Fullham (before marriage). Back in 2007 when we all
18 > attended Linux world. Having met the prior year, 2006 at Linux World. Both
19 > also came to my mothers house in Northern California back in
20 > 2007. Where would
21 > stay when I was in Northern California.
22 >
23 > Chrissy was constantly sending me private messages in IRC about foundation
24 > matters. Most of which I rather address in public not private. Which is the
25 > harassing I referred to. She had allot of issues with the
26 > things I was doing
27 > on the foundation side. I mentioned several places she was a
28 > major factor for
29 > me resigning as a trustee. But of course Chrissy was part of devrel in 2008.
30 >
31 > Chrissy questioning the change in By Laws that said you cannot be on
32 > Foundation and Council was because Chris (her bf and later
33 > husband ) was both
34 > in the past, a Trustee and on Council. I did not create the provision over
35 > Chris, I never had issues. It was just for clean separation of
36 > powers and not
37 > neglecting duties from wearing to many hats.
38 > https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-nfp/message/
39 > a3f9cc7d3d7d4be99202353a2950f0ce
40 >
41 > Several of the others involved at the time did live within the Bay Area of
42 > Chris and Chrissy and would gather for drinks weekly. I am not sure if that
43 > included Alec or not but he worked for Google and was local to
44 > them. There was
45 > some what of a "clique" then. But I had no issues with them as a whole but
46 > they did with me. All have moved on from Gentoo but the mess remains....
47 >
48 > A SINGLE user Alec Warner (antarus) not Chrissy complained to devrel.
49 > Which Chrissy (musikc) was a member of, and received the complaint...
50 > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=236479#c6
51 >
52 > I can't recall if Alec was a member but later he said he should
53 > have emailed
54 > me first. Also when it spiraled out of control onto -core
55 > later, he expressed
56 > regret for starting the whole mess. But once you push the ball
57 > down the hill,
58 > it is hard to stop it rolling over things...
59 > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=236479#c16
60 >
61 > The only "official warning" was in public by Chrissy... The
62 > person who was on
63 > the receiving end of my "unruly CoC violating behavior" . Which
64 > in of itself
65 > was hardly that bad.
66 >
67 > 100% of the issues were public on the -nfp list. Thus they requesting
68 > moderation... I was not out of control anywhere else, IRC, other mailing
69 > lists, etc or they would have requested moderation from that.
70 >
71 > You can see per comments on the bug I found out about the
72 > ban/moderation via
73 > the bug, monitoring bugzilla....
74 > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=236479#c17
75 >
76 > My problems have always been when I interact with members of the relations
77 > projects. I never have issues with developers or other projects. I do not
78 > think it is right for people in comrel to be part of the
79 > dispute with someone.
80 > It is not objective, they are bias...
81 >
82 > On Thursday, September 29, 2016 4:04:56 PM EDT William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
83 >> This has been a long time coming. I have purposely held back
84 >> such a post for
85 >> many years. I have not been on any Gentoo related mailing list since 2008.
86 >> Not to dredge up the past which has some what haunted me and plagued my
87 >> efforts to return on numerous occasions over many years.
88 >>
89 >> For a brief recap; ...
90 >
91 >> 1.
92 >> https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-nfp/message/
93 > dc2f34046910b10e6ddcb8304410046b
94 >> 2.
95 >> https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-nfp/message/
96 > abfb3ade0108d4452dde85bf491827b9
97 >> 3.
98 >> https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-nfp/message/
99 > 7ef33e6807214587fdb825bebe590887
100 >> 4. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=135927#c5
101 >
102 >
103
104 You sure do spend a lot of time justifying history for someone who "doesn't
105 need Gentoo," but we need you, apparently?
106
107 File the damned appeal against Andreas' decision to not allow you through
108 the rest of the developer recruitment process. If not, go find something
109 else to do with your time, but quit wasting ours with long back stories
110 about social problems. You are apparently not socially capable or have
111 severe problems interacting with others. That is up to you to decide.
112
113 As NP stated in a previous post this is not a dictatorship... so quit
114 acting like it is. The same things you complain about not getting done
115 will when the right people come along so don't act like you are a gift to
116 Gentoo. No one is.
117
118 -Aaron

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