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From: Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o>
To: gentoo-project <gentoo-project@l.g.o>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: copyright attribution clarifications
Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2018 20:57:37
Message-Id: CAGfcS_n+DLLtbAdhg+yoHUyQ6fO+wPiQCXxJzWTssGSY9S43aQ@mail.gmail.com
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: copyright attribution clarifications by Sarah White
1 On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 3:23 PM Sarah White <kuzetsa@××××××××××.ovh> wrote:
2 >
3 > It depends. It is not proper to remove an otherwise valid
4 > copyright notice (though it's likely proper / "good enough"
5 > if a simplified attribution of the form "gentoo authors"
6 > is used instead - that's fine on an opt-in basis)
7 >
8
9 IMO it is legal even if it isn't opt-in. So, legally we could always
10 just let contributors tack their employer's name on the one-liner and
11 then just trim it back off when they're not looking. That probably
12 won't make us any friends, but as far as I can tell nobody has ever
13 successfully sued somebody for doing this when the work was
14 distributed under the GPL.
15
16 > What's the purpose of removing or discouraging
17 > something which doesn't harm gentoo
18
19 It creates clutter in files that are otherwise very concise, so it
20 does cause a form of harm.
21
22 I get that lawyers like imposing restrictions on employees in their
23 companies to look like they're doing something. That doesn't mean
24 that we have to humor them. It is unfortunate that they have their
25 employees at a disadvantage, but we can't control the relationships
26 our contributors get into.
27
28 What if a company requires that we put their logo on our sponsors page
29 for one of their employees to contribute even a single line of code
30 off-hours? Sure, the harm of honoring that policy also is hard to
31 quantify, but it is clearly there, as it diminishes the value of being
32 recognized as a sponsor (and our existing sponsors give us more than
33 that - we try to have internal guidelines for what qualifies so that
34 the honor isn't cheapened).
35
36 As far as I'm aware, the number of contributors who are even impacted
37 by this policy is one. I certainly do feel bad about the situation
38 they are in, but unfortunately that is the nature of employee
39 relationships in the US. We have many people who are paid to
40 contribute to Gentoo who do not have this restriction. As far as I
41 can tell, the people responsible for imposing the restriction in this
42 case aren't interested in making a case for why they feel it is
43 necessary.
44
45 --
46 Rich