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On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 15:09:30 -0400 |
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Rich Freeman <rich0@g.o> wrote: |
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> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Roy Bamford |
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> <neddyseagoon@g.o> wrote: |
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> > Its not possible to fix social problems with technology. |
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> > Gentoo society is a microcosm of the world. |
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> While not all social problems can be solved with technology, some |
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> certainly can be. I don't think this particular solution is the right |
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> one, but that doesn't mean that solutions don't exist. |
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Technology has created many more social problems than it will ever |
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solve. The alone together concept never existed till technology created |
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that. People in my LUG bragged about how technology liberated Egypt. It |
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is a total mess as other countries. |
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Does anyone have more time with all this technology doing things faster |
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than every before? We seem to have less and less.... |
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For all the upsides we see. There are countless more downsides. We can |
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all connect. So can evil doers with your children etc. In ways unlike |
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ever before. |
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Anyone who thinks tech can solve social problems likely lacks social |
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skills to begin with. Thus is looking for solutions. |
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> Our mailing lists would be unusable without spam filtering. My life |
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> would be less sane if I couldn't mute threads in my MUA. Perhaps |
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> other lives would be more sane if I muted more threads. :) |
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That sounds more like something dictatorships do to control things to |
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their preferences and liking. There is NO place for such in an |
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international open source project. Democracy's are hectic, chaotic, etc. |
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Perhaps more people need to learn self control. Hit the delete button |
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on emails they are not interested in. Or create filters. Or simply |
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ignore. |
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These problems are YOURS not others. If a post distracts you. Then |
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YOU allowed that. If you read a post. YOU chose to do that. If |
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something is bothering you. YOU choose to let it bother you. Adults are |
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responsible for themselves. Stop blaming others! |
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Its funny people want to use tech against others. But they do not want |
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to use that tech directly for their own purposes based on their own |
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preferences. Filter or delete button.... Both much easier than reading |
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or replying.... |
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Take me, you can easily create a filter to delete any email I compose. |
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Or delete any thread. Or just ignore. That is YOUR choice. You need not |
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impose your point of view on a larger community. That is a vocal |
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minority controlling the majority. |
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It surely will not attract others. It says these guys are controlling |
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jerks. Why would I want to be work with them? Thus people do not. |
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> Moderation can also be fairly effective in maintaining order in |
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> communications. |
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> The key is just to keep it light. |
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You all are creating more noise in this very thread. The conversation on |
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-dev ended before this thread even started. That goes to show the |
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problem. People get involved when they need not. Just like in 08. |
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Rather than ignore or let things go. Lets make it into a bigger issue... |
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It also shows people cannot control themselves. Thus they want to rely |
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on others technical abilities to keep things to their liking and their |
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personal preference. There is NO place for such in a FOSS community. |
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This is exactly why people are not coming. |
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