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From: Matthew Thode <prometheanfire@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Meeting agenda - Council meeting 2018-04-08
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2018 19:21:14
Message-Id: 20180407192109.dwua4oc7pnwttjiu@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Meeting agenda - Council meeting 2018-04-08 by Rich Freeman
1 On 18-04-07 15:15:18, Rich Freeman wrote:
2 > On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 3:07 PM, Matthew Thode <prometheanfire@g.o> wrote:
3 > > On 18-04-07 21:01:38, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
4 > >> Am Samstag, 7. April 2018, 20:37:21 CEST schrieb Matthew Thode:
5 > >>
6 > >> > Second, I highly doubt that any other org would be willing to manage the
7 > >> > project without at least some sort of license/trademark agreement
8 > >> > between the foundation and them.
9 > >>
10 > >> As long as no public representation takes place, I see no need for that.
11 > >> However, this is a valid point that needs to be considered.
12 > >>
13 > >> > Third, I also doubt any org stepping in would want to manage one of two
14 > >> > accounts (bank wise), they'd want to manage all the money.
15 > >>
16 > >> Incorrect.
17 > >>
18 > >> (And if you ever bothered to actually read my mails, I already pointed that
19 > >> out.)
20 > >>
21 > >> Quoting the SPI web pages: "SPI does not prohibit the project from having a
22 > >> similar relationship with other fiscal sponsors."
23 > >>
24 > >
25 > > Thanks for this, I haven't had time to catch up everywhere, this list
26 > > suddenly went into high traffic mode...
27 > >
28 > >> > We'd be replacing one structure, where two groups think they
29 > >> > are in charge but one legally is, with two groups who think they are in
30 > >> > charge and both legally are.
31 > >>
32 > >> That sentence brings up a philosophical question. What happens if you think
33 > >> you're in charge, but nobody else does? (maybe except veremit)
34 > >>
35 > >
36 > > Eventually, if the person thinking they were in charge (but not actually
37 > > in charge) were to do something intolerable in the view of the group
38 > > actually in charge, they'd be fired / kicked out. The could possibly
39 > > extend to the removing of licencing/trademark privileges if any exist.
40 >
41 > That last bit only applies if the people in charge own any
42 > trademarks/etc. There wouldn't be much to be done with licenses since
43 > Gentoo is FOSS.
44 >
45 > If the Foundation got kicked out it seems like they only thing they
46 > could try to do is ask everybody to change the project name. Maybe
47 > they could try to seize control over the domain name or something.
48 >
49
50 This is true, I think I said it somewhere else in this thread, but if
51 everyone wanted to go and rename things that'd be a valid attack
52 strategy against the trustees.
53
54 --
55 Matthew Thode (prometheanfire)

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