Re: [gentoo-project] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Call for agenda items - Council meeting 2018-01-14

[Michał Górny]

W dniu pon, 08.01.2018 o godzinie 12∶38 -0500, użytkownik Brian Evans
napisał:
> On 1/2/2018 8:35 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> > In two weeks from now, the council will meet again. This is the time
> > to raise and prepare items that the council should put on the agenda
> > to discuss or vote on.
> >
> > Please respond to this message with agenda items. Do not hesitate to
> > repeat your agenda item here with a pointer if you previously
> > suggested one (since the last meeting).
> >
> > The agenda for the meeting will be sent out on Sunday 2018-01-07.
> >
> > Please reply to the gentoo-project list.
> >
> > Ulrich
> >
>
> I feel the council should discuss the current disarray that are the
> profiles.
>
> How new profiles are communicated to users is only causing confusion.
> There are currently two GLEP-42 news items that users see.  If they
> haven't updated in a few months, they will see the 17.1 news item first,
> on amd64, because of the 'Display-If-Installed: >=sys-devel/gcc-6.4.0'
> restriction of the 17.0 profile news item.

This is fixed already.

> While at the same time, the 13.0 profile is marked as deprecated and
> portage complains.

Doesn't it say list the 17.0 replacement profile?

> Until just recently, the 17.1 profile looked like what users had to
> migrate to on the most common arch, amd64.
>
> We need a set of standard procedures and recommendations to properly
> navigate through this swamp of a transition.
>
> Should there be a (better) mechanism on profile changes?
>

Maybe there should. FYI, I've updated the Handbook [1] with a big red
warning on profile upgrades. Maybe we should also 'arm' eselect profile
a little bit more, to warn or even require '--force' (or '--upgrade')
when switching to a newer profile version.

[1]:https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:Parts/Installation/Base#Choosing_the_right_profile


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Best regards,
Michał Górny