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From: "Paweł Hajdan
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Social Contract clean-up
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2018 06:48:51
Message-Id: 59112dab-4f05-4825-1682-7a03f6380b6d@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Social Contract clean-up by Rich Freeman
1 On 31/03/2018 02:24, Rich Freeman wrote:
2 > On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 7:49 PM, Daniel Robbins <drobbins@××××××.org> wrote:
3 >> It is pretty clear to many that the Council has some serious problems and is only nominally supported by developers.
4 >
5 > Most of the Council has been re-elected numerous times, usually with
6 > twice as many candidates as posts up for election. If developers
7 > didn't care for them they wouldn't keep voting for them.
8
9 +1 ; that may still be within the "nominal" support depending on how
10 exactly we understand it.
11
12 Here's one theory: with Council's limited powers and a lot of day-to-day
13 development not being directly affected by it, the support might not be
14 enthusiastic, just sticking to people known not to cause trouble.
15
16 My opinion is somewhere in between. There are people in Gentoo I'd
17 enthusiastically support for Council, and I generally respect it. On the
18 other hand, there is obviously room for improvement.
19
20 >> 2) Encourage Gentoo users to become members of the Foundation through
21 >> outreach and other initiatives.
22 >
23 > IMO this is a mistake, because there is no proof of stake. If
24 > somebody actually does have a significant stake and is willing to
25 > accept the responsibilities then they should be made a developer
26 > anyway.
27
28 +1 ; Gentoo already gives users a lot of power compared to other
29 distros, with its tools philosophy, USE flags, flexibility, offering
30 choice where possible etc.
31
32 Here's an idea: send users a survey somewhat like
33 <https://blog.golang.org/survey2017-results>, so that there is some
34 general feedback loop mechanism beyond bugs.
35
36 Paweł

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