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From: Mikle Kolyada <zlogene@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: comrel changes
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 08:08:45
Message-Id: ef617fa0-6a52-7433-062f-976bc4bd7942@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: comrel changes by "Michał Górny"
1 On 24.02.2020 10:47, Michał Górny wrote:
2 > On Sat, 2020-02-22 at 22:35 -0800, Alec Warner wrote:
3 >> On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 9:39 PM Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote:
4 >>
5 >>> On Fri, 2020-02-21 at 22:11 +0000, Roy Bamford wrote:
6 >>>> This 'revision' group alread exists. Its called the Gentoo council.
7 >>>> Unless, that is, council have no oversight of comrel?
8 >>> No, that's not how things work. You don't have an appeal body
9 >>> proactively look into what all projects are doing.
10 >>>
11 >> I think by definition this is reactive. Comrel publishes a report[0], and
12 >> the Council[1] reviews it.
13 > I thought we've already established that the reports are meaningless.
14 >
15 > The way I see it, your system basically means that, repeatedly:
16 >
17 > 1. ComRel does their job.
18 >
19 > 2. ComRel wastes their time publishing a meaningless report.
20 >
21 > 3. Since the report is meaningless, Council has to audit ComRel's work.
22 >
23 > Since digging for past data is usually more effort than processing it
24 > as it flows, Council may as well start proactively auditing everything.
25 > Except that's not its purpose, and I don't see why we should throw
26 > random extra tasks on their plate just because.
27 >
28 > In my opinion, if we are to go for auditing ComRel, we should select
29 > a separate group of people for that, people that choose to put their
30 > effort into auditing rather than incidentally get dragged into it.
31 > Furthermore, I believe this group should not have any direct deciding
32 > power. Instead, they should bring any issues their find to ComRel's
33 > attention and/or appeal them to the Council.
34 >
35
36 This is meaningless also, because an individual who finds ComRel
37 decision unacceptable can appeal to Council directly, you do not need
38 third party layer here.

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Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: comrel changes "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>