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From: Richard Yao <ryao@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:02:50
Message-Id: 50A24AD0.3060700@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization by Pandu Poluan
1 I plan to CC him when I make the official project announcement.
2
3 On 11/13/2012 06:49 AM, Pandu Poluan wrote:
4 > I think we also ought to contact Linus, to have some input on what the
5 > forked-udev (vdev? gdev? nlpdev?) *shouldn't* be. Lest we tread the same
6 > path that led to him calling udev 'stupid'.
7 >
8 > Just my 2 cents. Apologies if it's worthless :-|
9 >
10 > Rgds,
11 > --
12 > On Nov 13, 2012 4:32 PM, "Markos Chandras" <hwoarang@g.o> wrote:
13 >
14 >> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Richard Yao <ryao@g.o> wrote:
15 >>> Dear Everyone,
16 >>>
17 >>> It is no secret that many of us are unhappy with the direction that udev
18 >>> has taken under the leadership of the systemd developers. That includes
19 >>> Linus Torvalds, who is 'leery of the fact that the udev maintenance
20 >>> seems to have gone into some "crazy mode" where they have made changes
21 >>> that were known to be problematic, and are pure and utter stupidity.'
22 >>>
23 >>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/2/505
24 >>>
25 >>> After speaking with several other Gentoo developers that share Linus'
26 >>> concerns, I have decided to form a team to fork udev. Our plan is to
27 >>> eliminate the separate /usr requirement from our fork, among other
28 >>> things. We will announce the project later this week.
29 >>>
30 >>> I understand that the council is scheduled to vote on a topic related to
31 >>> udev stabilization. Would it be possible to delay the vote for another
32 >>> month so that we have time to get organized?
33 >>>
34 >>> Yours truly,
35 >>> Richard Yao
36 >>>
37 >>
38 >> Have you tried contacting other distros? They may face the same
39 >> problems with us and they might be interested
40 >> in helping us out.
41 >>
42 >> --
43 >> Regards,
44 >> Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
45 >>
46 >>
47 >

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Re: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization Markos Chandras <hwoarang@g.o>