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From: Matthew Thode <prometheanfire@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] Groups under the Council or Foundation: the structure & processes thereof
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 15:02:20
Message-Id: 5121cf38-b094-fb51-af8c-84a937d39b99@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] Groups under the Council or Foundation: the structure & processes thereof by "William L. Thomson Jr."
1 On 10/13/2016 09:40 AM, William L. Thomson Jr. wrote:
2 > On Wednesday, October 12, 2016 11:30:23 PM EDT Robin H. Johnson wrote:
3 >> TL;DR: move comrel, infra, PR to Foundation. Have strict(er) application
4 >> of policies to them in line with their powers.
5 >
6 > Just for the record so it is clear to all.
7 >
8 > The Gentoo Foundation OWNS Gentoo and all its assets, code, trademark,
9 > projects, etc. Everything falls under the foundation. You can create what ever
10 > meta structure you like, but when it comes to the law and legalities. It all
11 > belongs to the Foundation.
12 >
13 > I am not saying they would, but if the Trustees wanted to do anything within
14 > Gentoo, it is their LEGAL right to do so. They are the ONLY legal authority
15 > over Gentoo. No other body has any legal authority. If the council did not
16 > like any action they Trustees took. they have NO legal recourse. No one does.
17 >
18 > Even if every member challenged the actions of the Trustees. Who will you take
19 > that matter to?
20 >
21 > Good luck challenging any action, even in a court of law. More so if the
22 > actions the Trustees took had a good outcome. There would be no legal case
23 > against them or the foundation. Not to mention who pays for such litigation,
24 > as any funds for Gentoo come from the Foundation...
25 >
26 > Do not be under the delusion many have for years that the Foundation has no
27 > power and cannot have its power further extended till it is in order. That the
28 > most important aspect of Gentoo, its OWNERSHIP, is not in order is very
29 > serious. Everyone should care about the foundation. If you do not, you do not
30 > care about Gentoo. Because every contribution, belongs to the foundation. If
31 > something happens, it effects your contributions. Everyone should care, but
32 > most do not.
33 >
34 > It is only out of respect of the community Trustees post and do things that
35 > others approve. But they do not have to. They can change the by laws, and do
36 > what ever they fell is necessary, and they have 100% Legal Authority to do
37 > just that.
38 >
39
40 This is true 'The buck stops at the foundation', more or less. We've
41 divided responsibilities for a reason and don't want to rock the boat
42 and fracture things. At the moment I don't think anyone is suggesting a
43 formal 'decree' at this time.
44
45 --
46 -- Matthew Thode (prometheanfire)

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