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On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Andrew Savchenko <bircoph@g.o> wrote: |
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> On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 22:31:48 +0000 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: |
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>> On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 23:23:48 +0100 |
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>> Alexander Berntsen <bernalex@g.o> wrote: |
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>> > On 14/02/15 23:13, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: |
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>> > > That's how Git works. |
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>> > |
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>> > Consider contributors (Gentoo developers or not) that want to submit |
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>> > patches to a project. They should have access to the primary |
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>> > repository (git or not), and be able to contribute without being |
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>> > forced to use proprietary software. This is incredibly easy to |
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>> > facilitate, so I don't expect us to have a problem related to github |
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>> > and our social mission here. |
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>> What if their ISP runs proprietary software to manage its network? Will |
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>> Gentoo accept patches by pigeon? (Obviously the postal service can't be |
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>> relied upon to not use proprietary software.) |
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> One should not confuse transparent data transmission mediator and |
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> active data management engine required to create, submit or |
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> apply changes. |
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I think we're going a bit too far down the rabbit hole. |
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Somebody asked in IRC whether we run linuxbios on our servers. Even |
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if we did, I'm sure the CPU schematics aren't published, or the |
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blueprints for the power plant that runs the datacenter. |
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Until the entire world runs on FOSS, I think we can live with Gentoo |
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simply trying to adhere to the social contract as best it can. We |
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don't have to run the tinderbox on a CPU whose specs date to the 80s |
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since that was the only one we could find with published schematics. |
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I'm not aware of any aspect of Gentoo that necessitates the use of |
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proprietary software to contribute to, at least not anything a |
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contributor would have to pay for / etc. If somebody spots something |
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and can offer a reasonable alternative, I'm sure it will be looked |
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into. I think everybody around here is fairly dedicated to FOSS. |
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That said, Gentoo has always been a bit pragmatic - we allow non-free |
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stuff into the portage tree, for example (heck, even paid proprietary |
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software where you need the original CD to use the ebuild). But, you |
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can always set your ACCEPT_LICENSE strictly and never accidentally |
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install it, and that won't hold you back from contributing at all. |
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Honestly, I'm not really seeing a lot of division here - just arguing |
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over definitions/etc. |
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