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From: "Anthony G. Basile" <blueness@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:02:30
Message-Id: 50A24830.6010207@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] With regard to udev stabilization by Markos Chandras
1 On 11/13/2012 07:07 AM, Markos Chandras wrote:
2 > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Anthony G. Basile<blueness@g.o> wrote:
3 >> On 11/13/2012 04:31 AM, Markos Chandras wrote:
4 >>> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:40 AM, Richard Yao<ryao@g.o> wrote:
5 >>>> Dear Everyone,
6 >>>>
7 >>>> It is no secret that many of us are unhappy with the direction that udev
8 >>>> has taken under the leadership of the systemd developers. That includes
9 >>>> Linus Torvalds, who is 'leery of the fact that the udev maintenance
10 >>>> seems to have gone into some "crazy mode" where they have made changes
11 >>>> that were known to be problematic, and are pure and utter stupidity.'
12 >>>>
13 >>>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/2/505
14 >>>>
15 >>>> After speaking with several other Gentoo developers that share Linus'
16 >>>> concerns, I have decided to form a team to fork udev. Our plan is to
17 >>>> eliminate the separate /usr requirement from our fork, among other
18 >>>> things. We will announce the project later this week.
19 >>>>
20 >>>> I understand that the council is scheduled to vote on a topic related to
21 >>>> udev stabilization. Would it be possible to delay the vote for another
22 >>>> month so that we have time to get organized?
23 >>>>
24 >>>> Yours truly,
25 >>>> Richard Yao
26 >>>>
27 >>> Have you tried contacting other distros? They may face the same
28 >>> problems with us and they might be interested
29 >>> in helping us out.
30 >>>
31 >> We already thought of that. Does anyone know someone at debian?
32 >>
33 >> --
34 >> Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D.
35 >> Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened]
36 >> E-Mail : blueness@g.o
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40 >>
41 > Not me, but I guess this needs to be posted on a mailing list instead
42 > of contacting a single person or team.
43 >
44 Let's get something going before we start involving people. I'm
45 planning on trying to gut out systemd stuff and reduce it to just udev
46 code on Thursday. Once this looks like a viable starting point we can
47 get other distros involved.
48
49 --
50 Anthony G. Basile, Ph.D.
51 Gentoo Linux Developer [Hardened]
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