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On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 09:29:18 +0100 |
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Michał Górny <mgorny@g.o> wrote: |
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> W dniu sob, 09.12.2017 o godzinie 23∶25 -0800, użytkownik Brian Dolbec |
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> napisał: |
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> > On Sat, 9 Dec 2017 23:21:57 +0000 |
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> > "Robin H. Johnson" <robbat2@g.o> wrote: |
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> > > I did wish to participate re two items here, but regretfully I |
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> > > will be travelling at the time, and it's unlikely that I will have |
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> > > connectivity. |
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> > > |
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> > > On Sat, Dec 09, 2017 at 08:39:54PM +0100, Andreas K. Huettel |
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> > > wrote: |
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> > > > 3. Final review of GLEP 74 [4,5] |
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> > > > -------------------------------- |
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> > > > Full-tree verification using Manifest files |
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> > > |
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> > > The implementation is done, some tweaks were made since the |
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> > > previous month's version. |
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> > > |
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> > > > 4. Restricting gentoo-dev/-project posting [6] |
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> > > > ---------------------------------------------- |
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> > > > * Restricting posting to both gentoo-dev and gentoo-project, |
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> > > > while creating a gentoo-experts list? |
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> > > > * Restricting posting to gentoo-dev and moving all official |
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> > > > business there? |
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> > > > * Restricting posting to gentoo-dev and moving all official |
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> > > > business to a revived restricted gentoo-council list? |
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> > > > * Moderating lists instead? |
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> > > |
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> > > I had not weighed in publicly on this before, but wish to make a |
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> > > statement. |
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> > > The original split of gentoo-dev to gentoo-project included |
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> > > moderation of gentoo-dev, however that was never really |
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> > > implemented, mostly for technical reasons, and a decreased need |
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> > > after the split. |
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> > > I oppose a further split of -dev/-project/-experts, and instead |
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> > > propose better list policies of -dev. If it's technical, even |
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> > > coming from an expert user, it probably belongs on -dev. If it's |
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> > > about the organizational structures of Gentoo, it belongs on |
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> > > -project. How do we keep the threads more on-topic? Moderation |
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> > > maybe, but I'm not convinced that is best. |
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> > > |
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> > |
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> > I second this. I too do not want to see the lists split even |
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> > further. There are far too many interested and competent users in |
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> > it that can and do contribute in some ways. There has to be a |
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> > better solution. |
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> > |
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> > |
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> > Also: |
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> > |
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> > 1. Lack of enough package maintainers [1] |
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> > ----------------------------------------- |
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> > Anything that can be done? |
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> > |
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> > I am intending to set up a buildbot instance and develop some |
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> > builder scripts for it to aid in regular package maintenance. It |
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> > should be able to do basic version bumps and run the test suite, |
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> > present it to the pkg maintainers for final Q/A and pushes to the |
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> > tree. It should also be able to check/test on whatever arches that |
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> > have a worker connected to it. So this should help take some of |
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> > the pressure off the various arch teams. My first goal is for it |
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> > to do many of the python pkgs I maintain to get the basic system up |
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> > and running. Plus I should be able to leverage some of the |
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> > g-sorcery/gs-pypi code. Once operational, it should be possible to |
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> > add additional parsers to check for and update dependencies to add |
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> > additional types of pkgs to its capabilities. |
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> I hope you don't mean to bump packages without checking for changed |
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> dependencies and other important build system changes. |
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of course not, you should have read what I said completely. Especially |
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the last two sentences. |
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-- |
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Brian Dolbec <dolsen> |