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From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: comrel changes
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2020 05:39:13
Message-Id: d6c3df34f4a003cb518c1ce3c25c185b61f43526.camel@gentoo.org
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: comrel changes by Roy Bamford
1 On Fri, 2020-02-21 at 22:11 +0000, Roy Bamford wrote:
2 > On 2020.02.21 09:19, Michał Górny wrote:
3 > > On Thu, 2020-02-20 at 22:24 +0100, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
4 > > > Alec Warner schrieb:
5 > > >
6 > > > > I'm a little bit concerned that this addresses the symptoms
7 > > instead of the problem. Have you shared your concerns with comrel
8 > > regarding their lack of timely communication on reported issues? Do
9 > > they even share the same goals you enumerated?
10 > > > > My strawperson argument is that:
11 > > > > - (0) The council will elect some lead.
12 > > > > - The lead will never write reports (or write them but stop.)
13 > > > > - The lead will get removed per policy.
14 > > > > - Council will elect a new lead.
15 > > > > - GOTO 0
16 > > >
17 > > > My suggestion is in that case of missed report deadline, Council
18 > > asks for
19 > > > volunteers from the developer community to step up, and appoints two
20 > > of them
21 > > > to go through ComRel records and produce the transparency report.
22 > > >
23 > > > Regular independent review of ComRel activity is what NeddySeagoon
24 > > and I
25 > > > originally suggested and discussed with ComRel a while back. But
26 > > they seemed
27 > > > completely against it, so we eventually dropped it.
28 > > >
29 > >
30 > > All things considered, maybe creating a separate 'revision' group
31 > > would
32 > > be better, independently of the reports. Either split ComRel in two,
33 > > or
34 > > appoint something independent. Let 'core' ComRel do their work, while
35 > > the 'revision' group merely monitor their activities without getting
36 > > directly involved in the process.
37 >
38 > This 'revision' group alread exists. Its called the Gentoo council.
39 > Unless, that is, council have no oversight of comrel?
40
41 No, that's not how things work. You don't have an appeal body
42 proactively look into what all projects are doing.
43
44 --
45 Best regards,
46 Michał Górny

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Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: comrel changes Michael 'veremitz' Everitt <gentoo@×××××××.xyz>
Re: [gentoo-project] rfc: comrel changes Alec Warner <antarus@g.o>