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From: "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" <jmbsvicetto@g.o>
To: gentoo-project@l.g.o
Subject: Re: [gentoo-project] [GLEP 39 overhaul] Do we want to make changes to the role of the council?
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 01:03:03
In Reply to: Re: [gentoo-project] [GLEP 39 overhaul] Do we want to make changes to the role of the council? by Richard Freeman
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On 18-04-2010 11:58, Richard Freeman wrote:
> On 04/17/2010 07:50 PM, Denis Dupeyron wrote: >> Do we want to make changes to the role of the council? >> > > I'm not sure this is actually a change, but I think that many would > consider this a change, so perhaps it should be made explicit: > > There is one Gentoo. The Council heads it up. There is one Gentoo > Foundation. The trustees head it up. Full stop. > > All other positions of leadership/etc exist to facilitate day to day > work. All are subordinate to one of these two bodies. The council may > be voting enact or revoke policy on behalf of any project/etc, and may > make administrative decisions regarding project leads/etc.
I very strongly disagree with this view. I do want an elected body that can have influence in the distribution, but I don't agree with this view that there's the council, the developers and everything else "doesn't matter" - doesn't matter if it's expressed in other words, more subtly or diplomatically. I'll try to write my ideas on this subject in another reply to this thread, but for now I'll just say that we should try to find a balance between individual projects and their elected leads and the council. Furthermore, we have some special projects like Developer Relations and Infrastructure that need particular care as their "subordinate role" is either not so clear or not so desirable. To address specifically your point about conflict of interest, that is something that we should never waive casually. There is no rule that the DevRel lead cannot be a council member - in case you've missed it, our new DevRel lead is a council member. But we have a policy on how to deal with developers and the eagerness on the idea to throw it away and just let the council (the single body council?) do what it wants, is very disturbing to me. - -- Regards, Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / KDE / Elections -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJLz5fXAAoJEC8ZTXQF1qEPcDYP+wUAkhWuA4xk1yAHS/pqTXzp QjcmKS+z6J97g8Jvu4MGnC6sOHcVTea8rTZ40SCJ4x5r/M63Llvwv/5rwQ/a2tsp O9KnUBhOuVzj3MxwcE71UynCWLCGy4akr08C0pWNv1cqL7UHmZroyRhmOY75o9tS 6fBhRDByDEMGhtwroocxejFLcflzMVrmgZLAWlI3ytOiAlSa7OfB1NihlqlBLxBP QWKZBpzxFl4zfgjKEFVRtsd9V3RGBZwjAQp2b2LhnR+052rVb/i4c4mASm9KdPkv PEVssFhJCqhfbWq136NNSa7h41/v3MpaiArB3Lcu8QJN0RxW9L41EMI++ueo2Snc 73TAXq3NwnwKW2XGQ7Sk0H0uZDahb5Mfc1IRjySeaDLjbzH047dBYr94XyPhAtof 3qdk71U4aEd/yxTtpwfcyyo9NK/VbkHfzKvTZDblnm8Z+AyUmaWbnj5BraxkTxRi aPP3yAtmnPxkd7hMEOh/vROEFKqLLx0McH3HvCEgXfWsi35whezZR2DGOBLKA8VE iOa25vExAxQkwI5ufHfqE5mgSh9ZIlNBIiDFT5V8G6eWQb7ml0AT7HkyF3v5Blv+ Nf4WJ3lPfAdBGQ/nTUUfMFG+VBOvHelRDBUtt/u1YqRIvPjFioPycHFvDRS4iz2K opoEo92+Laf6oik1gooj =NJFY -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----